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1 hour ago, PhishLI said:

Silliness. Is the line also "scraping" the rod's guides?

Yes?  

 

Anything the line touches will add friction.  Somethings add friction while doing something useful/necessary, but running the line under the pin adds friction for no benefit.

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    Expert? Never claimed I was...   But, I just went and grabbed a T-wing reel and put the line under the bar.    You see that line angle? I don't even have this reel fully spooled, i

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10 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

Why doesn't one of the Diawa fanboys call them and ask ?As  Lews guy I say over. 

Anyone that has had any experience with a t-wing reel knows you spool it over the top. when the reel is engaged the

t wing holds it above the bar. in free spool the line still rides above the bar. if you spool it below the bar it is pretty obvious it is wrong.

As others have said this is a silly thread. everyone needs to get out and go fishing.

19 hours ago, N Florida Mike said:

Just use a spinning reel and you won’t have to agonize over it...?

Yeah,

 

but does the spinning reel go above or below the rod when I'm holding it?

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17 minutes ago, fishwizzard said:

Anything the line touches will add friction.  Somethings add friction while doing something useful/necessary, but running the line under the pin adds friction for no benefit.

Friction in itself, or two friction surfaces interacting in this case, does not denote scraping. A tiny precentage of the line's diameter is in contact with either the round crossbar or the rounded line guides.

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2 minutes ago, PhishLI said:

Friction in itself, or two friction surfaces interacting in this case, does not denote scraping. A tiny precentage of the line's diameter is in contact with either the round crossbar or the rounded line guides.

Sure, but "zero contact" is better then "a little contact" if no purpose is served by the added friction.  

 

What benefit can exist from running the line under the pin?  

This was a great read, I thought I was about to get off the toilet till I found this thread. 

  • Super User
2 minutes ago, fishwizzard said:

What benefit can exist from running the line under the pin?  

None. HockeyRanger man'd up conceded the point on page 2..

1 hour ago, twigss said:

Definitely. That's why I use rods without guides. You can save a lot of money by just using sticks you find on the bank.

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  • Super User
15 minutes ago, fishwizzard said:

Sure, but "zero contact" is better then "a little contact" if no purpose is served by the added friction. 

The smooth metal crossbar's there so the line doesn't "scrape" the wormgear shroud. A conventional line guide aperture found in every single reel with a disengaging level wind is also less than ideal regarding friction while the line is paying out, even if it's conical. They're all imperfect, but all happen to work quite well.

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Pretty sure you guys have quarantitus.  A symptom is arguing over thing that do not matter.  OP's question is asked and answered.

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