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1 hour ago, TnRiver46 said:

My phone thinks I’m in Nashville . Since the day I bought it! Changed the setting and it defaults back to Nashville every single time. Total nightmare when looking up parts at work 

Sounds like you're getting DQ'd if you ever enter a kayak derby. LOL. My work phone and computer do that sometimes- something with firewalls or proxy servers or something makes it think I'm at HQ. 

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I wasn’t allowed to fish tournaments on the lake I guided on.  The tournament directors all fished but were the last out and the first in.  

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TD who fish their own trail is a conflict of interest.  Kayak fishing tournaments are shady as all get out in many cases anyways.

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I can’t think of a local tournament trail that lasted always some shenanigans going on.

Letting anglers fish for money and trusting them to be honest ends up poorly.

Dishonest people can be very clever.

I liked to fish night charity derbies because cheating was rare stealing from a charity kept most everyone honest.

Tom

 

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10 hours ago, JHoss said:

Kayak derbies typically do a Catch, Photo, Release format and you have to enable location on your phone when taking the photo. That way there's a time and location stamp to know it was taken on the tournament waters during tournament hours.

 

Lots of yak tournaments like that here.  They list about a dozen lakes you can fish on, and the angler can select any of the qualifying lakes.  They often allow you to rotate lakes during the event, but obviously that wastes valuable fishing time.

 

I used to fish in a Metro Muskie Tournament that allowed the same thing - about 15 lakes were permitted.

 

Changing the lakes shortly before the event is sketchy though.  Every lake should be known in advance when the event is scheduled and that should not change.

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On 11/15/2024 at 8:55 AM, fishballer06 said:

I would never fish for money in an event where not everyone competing is on the same body of water. How could anyone prove that they are even at one of the "approved" bodies of water?

GPS data in the submission photo verifies the location If they are using something like TourneyX, that stuff is plotted out on maps for the admins.

On 11/15/2024 at 12:55 PM, TnRiver46 said:

My phone thinks I’m in Nashville . Since the day I bought it! Changed the setting and it defaults back to Nashville every single time. Total nightmare when looking up parts at work 

The GPS data is embedded in the photo.

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TD’s should not fish the trails they oversee.

 

If this is a national trail like Bass Nation I would report it to the national organization.

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1 hour ago, Koz said:

GPS data in the submission photo verifies the location If they are using something like TourneyX, that stuff is plotted out on maps for the admins.

The GPS data is embedded in the photo.

And I think my gps data says Nashville . Every time I look up anything on my phone it’s in Nashville. Game times are all central, stores are all Davidson county, etc

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On 11/15/2024 at 11:55 AM, TnRiver46 said:

My phone thinks I’m in Nashville . Since the day I bought it! Changed the setting and it defaults back to Nashville every single time. Total nightmare when looking up parts at work 

I would want to be in Nashville rather than Knoxville 😂😂 Really only because Vandy is “recruiting” my son for his academics…

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27 minutes ago, Smirak said:

I would want to be in Nashville rather than Knoxville 😂😂 Really only because Vandy is “recruiting” my son for his academics…

I can’t even afford to park in Nashville, you can have it 

20 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

I can’t even afford to park in Nashville, you can have it 

Heck, I can’t even afford to pay attention!!

Our kayak club has some "radius events" like this around a certain location.  Sometimes they have a specific list of lakes, but other times the lake has to be on our state (MO) fishing app list of public lakes within the radius of a certain address, via Google maps.  Our TDs fish our tournaments but they don't judge the on-site tournaments.  Your directors having additional lakes added with that short of a notice should have caused ALL of the members to have said something.  The larger the lakes, the more fair it is!  We had one tournament where 4-5 kayaks were fishing the same 20-30 acre lake for one such event- and a couple of the guys who placed (including the overall winner) was one of them.  One innovative thing we did a couple years ago was to have some sponsors give a special prize for a certain listed lake's biggest fish (guided half day trip, good sized gift equipment certificate or fishing gear).  Some prizes were big enough that the members went to that lake just to win that prize and to be on an unpressured lake, even though it might not have been the "best" lake on the list.

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