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With my Lew's Hank Parker 6'10" M/F casting rod, I've noticed that it's seemed to get more responsive with casting as I've used it. The tip is a bit more limber, and it's overall become more usable. Is this a common thing?

 

In this thread there is mention made of a rod getting broken in, and as a result, changing the action.\

 

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graphite rods don't 'break in'.  Old bamboo and fiberglass rods would, but graphite does not take a set or break in in any way.  With your rod, you've just gotten more used to it and how to bend it.  

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Casts by fly is right-they don't change.  Did you change lines?

 

I have proven that the numbers of rods, CCS power and action and True Natural Frequency (TNF) do not change with use or time on graphite rods.  Bamboo certainly, glass I doubt it but have no data.

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Hmm. Same line as always 8,10,12 pound Big Game.

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This rod took a set from being left in a hot car under a bend, bent up against the roof. I reversed it and left it a few days the other way and the bend went back most of the way.

 

Been more careful with it lately and making sure it's not in a bend when left in the car (and removing it from the car), and the bend has left.

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I am going to say this as someone who was an archer and bowhunter for decades. Carbon arrows can, over time, lose stiffness (spine) after long-term use. Not damage from impacts, but simply from flexing after the arrow has been shot a long time. There’s a saying that carbon arrows are straight or broke-they do not bend. But that is not 100% truth. Some can take a set. 
 

So I would think that it is possible that a graphite rod could possibly lose some stiffness over a long period of use. 

8 hours ago, casts_by_fly said:

graphite rods don't 'break in'.  Old bamboo and fiberglass rods would, but graphite does not take a set or break in in any way.  With your rod, you've just gotten more used to it and how to bend it.  

This ^.  No rod I’ve purchased has been as stiff after several trips as it was the first time using it.  The rod broke me in, not the other way around.

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8 hours ago, BrianMDTX said:

So I would think that it is possible that a graphite rod could possibly lose some stiffness over a long period of use.

I have no experience leaving rods in a bent shape , and "long" period is hard to define.  All I'm saying is that within the time frame I have experienced I have observed no change.  High temp while bent is a different situation.  I'm not saying you are wrong, just that I have not observed it.  At least to a measurable amount.  To directly answer the question do rods break in, I'd have to say no in at least a "reasonable" time period. 

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@BrianMDTX - with arrows you are putting FAR more force into the shaft when you shoot it to the point that over time the scrim matrix can start to break down via force/damage.  Also, as a separate note if your arrows are underspined they will flex a lot further on the shot and contribute to those same damages faster  A stiffer arrow will come off the bow much straighter and won't have the same level of flex.  

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placebo affect I imagine.  

 

I love getting a rod and setting it up and that first cast standing in the middle of my street.  

 

80% backlash.   I cant help it.  I fire like I am casting for the horizon.  second cast after fixing the reel, is more tamed and deliberate.  

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On 10/6/2025 at 2:24 PM, casts_by_fly said:

graphite rods don't 'break in'.  Old bamboo and fiberglass rods would, but graphite does not take a set or break in in any way.  With your rod, you've just gotten more used to it and how to bend it.  

"Break in" is a relative term, but graphite blanks can certainly deform on both a vertical and horizontal axis.  The degree of deformation depends on numerous variables.  The graphite, resin, extent of use and time under heavy load are the more pertinent factors, although I would bet that temperature is a factor as well.

I've got an old 7' UL MF Eagle that bends at the tip under its own weight.  Over the years that bend has set.

Just the blank changing shape on a vertical axis under load, the graphite of the blank will flex from a circular to an oval shape.  The scrim ensures the blank will return to its round shape. 

 

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