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Ok, looks like I narrowed it down to these 2. I'm planning on using the rod for soft plastics and jigs. So....

Between the LTX and the AC66MLF...WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE AND WHY?!?!

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I don't know anything about the Carrot Stix, but I own an Avid AS66MLF. Assuming the blank on the casting version is similar, the tip is too soft for soft plastics and light jigs. The "package" is better matched with a smaller reel, too. I have my spinning version saddled with a Stella 1000FA which makes this a great set-up for white bass, crappie and stocker trout.

This rod performs best with "moving" lures: Panther Martin, Floating Rapala and Countdown, light poppers, crappie jigs, grubs and live bait.

8-)

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Oh and I forgot to mention it will be matched w/ a Shimano 200dhsv.

The lightest rod in the market attached to that anchor!!!!!.....I don't see the point.  

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I just bought a new carrot stix and a St. Croix legend tournament series rod.  Haven't fished either yet, but playing with them in the living room I greatly prefer the Carrot.  I also hate my Curado 200 on the St. Croix, but the exreme lightness of the Carrot Stick helps balance out that big reel.  Sorry I can't help with the Avid.

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A balanced rod will give you a more sensitive feel.

AC68MXF

I agree on both counts. A ML rod is not for jigs...

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I have messed with both. And would take a Carrot Stix over a Croix anyday. Lighter and MUCH more sensitive. :P

For my jigs I now use a Carrot Stix LTX MH in 6'9" and 7'3".

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^ You can't be real by saying you would choose a carrot stick over ANY croix?

Yup, he is serious.  :P

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^ You can't be real by saying you would choose a carrot stick over ANY croix?

why not?ken whiting is an award winning rod builder.he makes good stuff.not that croix isn't good but there are other alternatives.the carrot stick won best in show at icast.

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^ You can't be real by saying you would choose a carrot stick over ANY croix?

why not?ken whiting is an award winning rod builder.he makes good stuff.not that croix isn't good but there are other alternatives.

St.Croix is celebrating 60 years designing/building rods.. ;)
the carrot stick won best in show at icast.
Roll a graphite inner core, (in reality the core of the blank is still graphite cloth wrapped just like every one else's with the outer part being dipped), now dip the core into some colored nano fibers (The orange color which is supposed to be because the material is made out of carrots is actually added.

When carrots are ground up and exposed to the air, they turn brown). Now paint it right, display it just so, then light it up for the judges and what do you get "A Carrot Stix winning best of show at ICAST...

So far all I've been impressed with is their marketing scheme.

From Tom Kirkman:

If the manufacturer had promoted the actual technology and benefits of the bio-fiber and molding process, rather than trying to capitalize on the novelty aspect of an orange rod and a cute name, they might already be at the top of the charts. At some point somebody will begin tinting them black and marketing them based on their actual benefits and that will be the company that puts them on the map.

:P

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^ You can't be real by saying you would choose a carrot stick over ANY croix?

why not?ken whiting is an award winning rod builder.he makes good stuff.not that croix isn't good but there are other alternatives.

St.Croix is celebrating 60 years designing/building rods.. ;)
the carrot stick won best in show at icast.
Roll a graphite inner core, (in reality the core of the blank is still graphite cloth wrapped just like every one else's with the outer part being dipped), now dip the core into some colored nano fibers (The orange color which is supposed to be because the material is made out of carrots is actually added.

When carrots are ground up and exposed to the air, they turn brown). Now paint it right, display it just so, then light it up for the judges and what do you get "A Carrot Stix winning best of show at ICAST...

So far all I've been impressed with is their marketing scheme.

From Tom Kirkman:

If the manufacturer had promoted the actual technology and benefits of the bio-fiber and molding process, rather than trying to capitalize on the novelty aspect of an orange rod and a cute name, they might already be at the top of the charts. At some point somebody will begin tinting them black and marketing them based on their actual benefits and that will be the company that puts them on the map.

:P

i never said st. croix didn't make a good rod.i would buy one in a minute.they have one of the best warranties going.ken whiting is no slouch either.

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St. Croix does make some super rods,  but e21 also has came out with a great rod with the carrot.  In my opinion the carrot would be the rod of my choice vs. a premier or avid not sure about a legend because I have never fished one.  But the carrot stix are Very High on my list of favorite rods now.

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What are the guides like on your 150$ carrot stix?  and reel seat?  

I got a chance to take a long look at one at a fishing expo and those two things did not look to be of good quality.  I would say my eye is untrained, so let us know.

Maybe they're better on the 250$ line, but that's a whole different price range...

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Both rods are waaay to soft for what you want to use them for.  I think the reel you're planning on pairing with the rod is a bit heavy too, but that's just me.  

I agree with Lubina, GLX BCR is an awesome rod.  

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So far all I've been impressed with is their marketing scheme.

:P

So you've had a chance to throw one!!  Why no report??  I have been waiting for your REAL opinion, the one of the rod, not the company.  What is your honest opinion of the sensitivity when compared to the Avid?

Did the company really expect us to believe the rod is orange because of the carrot content??  I assumed it was colored orange to "reflect" on the fact that they used carrot in the making.

Personally, I have a rocky relationship with Ken.  I think, marketing wise, that the rod is the ugliest thing around and would surely prevent me from ever buying one, but that's me, looks matter, to many, they don't.  

Then I used one,....regardless of my opinion of the owner, or the color, the rod is a dream.

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No matter what the technology is or isn't. It is super light and  super sensitive, and REASONABLY PRICED!!!

Did I mention a good warranty, so you know you will always get a new rod, and not a discount off another.

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Between the LTX and the AC66MLF...WHICH WOULD YOU CHOOSE AND WHY?!?!

That is a difficult question. I have a couple of Avids and a couple of customs SCII & III blank rods and a Legend Elite here and there. Top choice, the LTX transmit the vibration of a quite dream and weight about the same. The 6.9 parabolic M weights 0.4 oz less than my Steez 6.7 MH.

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I think the $160 version is a great stick for the money. They are light as a feather and seem very well made. I'm not so sure on the $250 version. It looks almost identical to the lower priced one, with a weight adding deal at the bottom. My opinion is your paying for the Boyd Duckett name on those higher priced models??

I think it's somewhat comparing apples and, you gueesed it, oranges.

The Carrot Stick compares to Kistler and Powell in my mine b/c of the design type and weight. Plus e21 is somewhat of an unknown commodity at this point.

The Avid is more of an old school design, with a great blank and a solid reputation for quality.

As far as being savy marketers, I give e21 major props. They did something truly unique with the design and look, won a big award at ICast, and then signed the reigning world champion in Boyd Duckett to promote the product.

Marketing is half the battle in consumer product sales, and they've done a heck of a job in branding the thing.

I've picked them up twice, and so far I like the feel of them.

That said, I'm a Powell guy for now. I just like the design, quality, and value for what you pay. I own one Avid, and I like it fine, but it's not a lot better or worse than similar rods in the same price range IMHO. In fact, again, I prefer the Powell.

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