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Good afternoon,

I have had major issues with my fluoro line getting twisted when using my spinning reels. I use the plain old Berkley Vanish and it is typically 8lbs test on my Abu Garcia STX reels. I love the feel of fluoro and really don’t want to go back to using mono for the specific scenarios that I am using this outfit in. I have tried KVD's Line and Lure Magic and it certainly helps, but I still find myself with major twists. I also am finding myself having to re-line every other trip because of the knots created from the line twists. The only time this doesn’t happen is when I have very little line on my spool, which isn’t really a great way to fish. I am at a loss. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thank you in advance for your help.

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depends on the lure you are fishing, some lures will twist line really bad and you need to use a swivel to prevent it... if you arent using a lure known to cause bad line twist.. if not that then check your line roller bearing and make sure its not froze up

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depends on the lure you are fishing, some lures will twist line really bad and you need to use a swivel to prevent it... if you arent using a lure known to cause bad line twist.. if not that then check your line roller bearing and make sure its not froze up

Typically I am fishing a tube, senko, or jig of some sort; obviuosly of which, I do not use a swivel for.

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I use Berkley Vanish 10# on my Tierra and it works fine. I use KVD Line and Lure conditioner also. Must be your bearing as mentioned above

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I use Berkley Vanish 10# on my Tierra and it works fine. I use KVD Line and Lure conditioner also. Must be your bearing as mentioned above

Gentlemen,

I am 100% that it is not the bearing, as my Spinning Reels are brand new. It would be strangely coincidental that they are they both messed up... at least I think so. Could it have something to do with the way I am lining my spools?

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I spool straight off the top of the spool. I didn't know your reels were brand new sorry.If you are spooling with the spool flat it will immediately start twisting in my experience.

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Do you click your bail manually?

Click your bail manually, and give a pull on the line to straiten it out. For things that will twist your line, use a very small spro swivel.

FWIW I've had Abu spinning reels give me issues also, even when using the same sized reel from someone else with no problems.

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I spool straight off the top of the spool. I didn't know your reels were brand new sorry.If you are spooling with the spool flat it will immediately start twisting in my experience.

No need to aplogize; great thing to consider for future reference. I need to start spooling straight of the top, I am spooling it flat; I think that might be a major contributing factor.

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Do you click your bail manually?

Click your bail manually, and give a pull on the line to straiten it out. For things that will twist your line, use a very small spro swivel.

FWIW I've had Abu spinning reels give me issues also, even when using the same sized reel from someone else with no problems.

It's funny you say that, I was playing around today at the river. I almost never click the bail manually, however, today, after noticing the line twisting terribly, I started to do exactly what you are saying. I will have to start getting used to manually clicking the bail and giving it a pull to straighten out. Thanks for the tip.

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It's funny you say that, I was playing around today at the river. I almost never click the bail manually, however, today, after noticing the line twisting terribly, I started to do exactly what you are saying. I will have to start getting used to manually clicking the bail and giving it a pull to straighten out. Thanks for the tip.

It's better for the reel too.

Honestly, once you do it awhile, you won't notice the difference otherwise. It will just be second nature.B)

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Manually closing the bail changed fishing for me. I don't have to worry much about twist anymore-thank goodness.

One other trick that works for me: As the bait touches down I feather the line with my index finger against the lip of the spool and lift the rod tip slightly as I close the bail. This eliminates loose line and twisting as I begin to reel. Like thumbing the spool on a baitcaster, once you do it enough it almost happens from muscle memory. Good luck.

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I gave up using flourocarbon as a mainline on spinning gear. Did not matter what brand I used, if I did or didn't use line conditioner, etcc.... I just couldn't stand it. I now use it 4' at a time tied to braid main line with the alberto knot. That knot has not cost me one fish all season.

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It's the reel, I have 4 soron stx's, one ( a 4000 which is brand new ) gets line twist very bad and others also but not to the same degree and I'm using braid, the line twist causes terrible wind knots. I always use BB swivels and close the bail by hand, spoons get thrown a lot, doesn't help I use a little less than about 1/2 of a spool maybe 80 or 90 yds of 20# braid, I no longer have the problem. I use this combo for inshore use, none of my other inshore outfits have this problem.

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It's the reel, I have 4 soron stx's, one ( a 4000 which is brand new ) gets line twist very bad and others also but not to the same degree and I'm using braid, the line twist causes terrible wind knots. I always use BB swivels and close the bail by hand, spoons get thrown a lot, doesn't help I use a little less than about 1/2 of a spool maybe 80 or 90 yds of 20# braid, I no longer have the problem. I use this combo for inshore use, none of my other inshore outfits have this problem.

Very well could be the reel. I've seen several instances actually of people using the same line on similar sized but different reels, one have all sorts of issues and another not having issues.

I like to use smaller reels than most use. Pflueger supreme 8030's. I've found they manage line great. Even without wizbang line management features. Abu reels I've used were terrible, and I quit using all but one, and that one is a big spool reel w/braid on it.

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I do like my Abu sorons, especially in saltwater, but any new purchases most likely will not be an Abu, too many line issues, I pretty much have my mind up what direction I will be taking.

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I use fluoro leaders only. Whatever one needs to use the stuff fully spooled up on a spinning reel escapes me. I completely buy into the invisible line thing. Just not 110 yards of it. A bit more than the water clarity and I call it good. But as my signature says... ;)

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Manually closing the bail changed fishing for me. I don't have to worry much about twist anymore-thank goodness.

One other trick that works for me: As the bait touches down I feather the line with my index finger against the lip of the spool and lift the rod tip slightly as I close the bail. This eliminates loose line and twisting as I begin to reel. Like thumbing the spool on a baitcaster, once you do it enough it almost happens from muscle memory. Good luck.

Great information! Thank you so much. I am definately going to start using this method.

On a side note: I find it so strange that some individuals are convinced that it is the ABU Reels that are causing the problem... I did a lot of research before purchasing these reels. It blows my mind that line twists never came up as one of the major problems when I was researching this product. I love the way the reel handles; its just those d**n line twists that frustrate me.

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also vanish is the worst flouro made.try seguar inviszx.

Is this true? I haven’t toyed with too many types of fluoro, but I always liked the feel of vanish for the price. Could this be a contributing factor to my line twists as well...?

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Is this true? I haven’t toyed with too many types of fluoro, but I always liked the feel of vanish for the price. Could this be a contributing factor to my line twists as well...?

I'm not sure about line twist since I haven't used it, but I have been in the boat with my brother and witnessed him have multiple breakoffs using the stuff.

It's bad enough he switched to Viscous flourocarbon and loves the stuff compared to the Vanish.

FWIW 100% Flourocarbon from Berkley really isn't a bad line. It's my second choice-but I haven't and WILL NOT use some of these high dollar spools costing 25-40 bucks.

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On a side note: I find it so strange that some individuals are convinced that it is the ABU Reels that are causing the problem... I did a lot of research before purchasing these reels. It blows my mind that line twists never came up as one of the major problems when I was researching this product. I love the way the reel handles; its just those d**n line twists that frustrate me.

The individuals who have come to the conclusion that these reels can cause problems in this area have done so based on experience. I don't find that strange at all. They have shared their experience with you in attempt to help with your line twist issue. SirSnook, for example, fishes with spinning reels only and spends far more time fishing than most, much of it in saltwater. He may not be the definitive authority on spinning reels, but his experience does give him some authority IMO. You will have to decide whether your issues are caused by the reel, line, your technique, or some combination of these. Good luck.

FWIW I use BPS Pro Qualifier baitcast reels. They have served me well and I consider them to be great value reels. There are other credible folks on this forum that consider them junk. I have read and considered their opinions, and buy them anyway. That is not strange-it is just fishing.

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The individuals who have come to the conclusion that these reels can cause problems in this area have done so based on experience. I don't find that strange at all. They have shared their experience with you in attempt to help with your line twist issue. SirSnook, for example, fishes with spinning reels only and spends far more time fishing than most, much of it in saltwater. He may not be the definitive authority on spinning reels, but his experience does give him some authority IMO. You will have to decide whether your issues are caused by the reel, line, your technique, or some combination of these. Good luck.

FWIW I use BPS Pro Qualifier baitcast reels. They have served me well and I consider them to be great value reels. There are other credible folks on this forum that consider them junk. I have read and considered their opinions, and buy them anyway. That is not strange-it is just fishing.

Good Post.

FWIW I don't mean to imply that all Abu spinning reels have poor line management. Just in my experience, the ones I've used, and the ones others have used that I have fished with have had problems.

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No need to aplogize; great thing to consider for future reference. I need to start spooling straight of the top, I am spooling it flat; I think that might be a major contributing factor.

To avoid line twist while spooling you need to lie the spool flat and be sure the coils are coming off the same way they are being wound. If using a spindle, spool off the bottom for spinning reels and off the top for baitcasters.

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The individuals who have come to the conclusion that these reels can cause problems in this area have done so based on experience. I don't find that strange at all. They have shared their experience with you in attempt to help with your line twist issue. SirSnook, for example, fishes with spinning reels only and spends far more time fishing than most, much of it in saltwater. He may not be the definitive authority on spinning reels, but his experience does give him some authority IMO. You will have to decide whether your issues are caused by the reel, line, your technique, or some combination of these. Good luck.

FWIW I use BPS Pro Qualifier baitcast reels. They have served me well and I consider them to be great value reels. There are other credible folks on this forum that consider them junk. I have read and considered their opinions, and buy them anyway. That is not strange-it is just fishing.

I do appreciate ALL Feedback. I didn’t mean to sound rude. I just wish when I was doing my research this would have been noted by someone about these reels; that’s what I find strange about it. SirSnook has helped me countless times with his feedback; not only in this topic but also in others. I will continue to try to use these reels and try some of the techniques others have used to prevent line twists from happening. Obviously If it continues to twist, by process of elimination; I will know that it is truly the reels causing the issue. Thanks for your feedback.

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