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If the boat breaks and you have a warranty, you don't pay for repairs. If it doesn't have a warranty you do pay. Does that help?

o u r the howlin gramur poleece now? shur enuf huh lissen old man we yung kids no lots mor than u old foggeees will ever no liten up on us it jus a fourem 4 gods sakes. peece out

Pushing the pins out away from center turns them on. Clicked in against the spool axis is off. I normally have 2 on and rarely adjust them again except in extreme cases. Then I would jump up to 3 on. I've never done more than that.

Daiwa's mag brake is different. Garcia's is fixed and works against the reel speed constantly, Daiwa's V system moves during the cast only presenting itself when it's needed. No, it's not EXACTLY the same type of mag brake. If you disassemble either the Patriarch or the JM reel you'll see the mag brake is just like mag brakes used in the past, exposed magnets mounted on a cam plate that move closer to or further away from the spool end when the adjustment is turned. The SX, SC and STX have a mag brake similar to the old LP Garcia reel, the 4007LP. The magnets are covered by plastic and a metal plate moves exposing them more or less depending on the setting. The magnets themselves are fixed in relation to the distance to the spool end vs the others that aren't. I find the effect of the mag brake is greater with the old exposed style of brake vs the Revo Linear mag. As I stated, I didn't switch because of the mag brake, that is relatively meaningless to me. I bought some JM reels to resell but wound up trying them out. After 2 weekends of going from Revo S reels to the JM to the SX and the STX during the day I finally decided I was trying to like the last 2 reels but I wasn't enjoying using them. They were too much work and weren't worth the effort. Now I could've easily switched completely to the Revo S, but I also found the metal finish on the JM reels, and now the Patriarchs, more comfortable to fish with throughout the day. As for the weight? .7oz is far less important to me than the overall physical size of a reel when it's on the rod. The Patriarch and JM reels are virtually twin sons of different mothers to the Revo's. The mechanics are virtually identical as is the overall profile of the reels. BTW, I still have 2 Revo S reels and will continue to use them. They're great reels and would highly recommend them to anyone. Let me state this though. Had I been happier with the SX and STX reels in the first place I never would've even given thought to trying the JM reels out. The metal finish is nice but would'nt have swayed me had the 2 reel types been more user friendly. That said. I do like the Revo reels, all of them. They have a great feel on the rod. The line capacity is perfect, especially considering the overall size of the reel. The mechanics are solid. The drag is smooth and it's lb rating is impressive. It's just the overall user friendliness that comes up short with me. I'm not sure of your point? Talk about PITA, try removing the crank side plate on an old 5000 series Garcia round reel, pulling the brake blocks off the pins and installing new ones without dropping them while on the water.

The D version Curado's and Citica's weren't big sellers (using Shimano standards) because of the VBS braking, it was probably more due to the introduction of the Revo's and their size vs. line capacity. The D version line capacity seemed to be the downfall of the D. The Revo reels IMO, have an ideal line capacity for a baitcaster along with a slimmer, lower profile. If you wanted the same line capacity in a D reel, you had to go to the 200 series which was a bigger, bulkier reel than the Revo. The 100 series were comparable to the Revo size wise but they lacked the line capacity. As far as having to pull the side plate off to adjust the centrifugal brakes? I normally take any cent. brake reel and set 2 pins on, I rarely have to change that. Once I have that set, the rest is on thumb control and minor tweaks to the spool tension. In the case of mag brakes, I don't use them often and on the dual brake reels like the Patriarch or Johnny Morris, have them set from a 0 -2 position. If I'm throwing a higher profile lure that tends to flutter during the cast or I'm throwing into heavy winds, I'll turn the mag braking up to compensate. In fact, you can set the dual brake reels to be nearly thumb off during the cast without backlash. Of course, you'll sacrifice some casting distance doing so.

That's the reason I dislike the reels. Last weekend I was throwing Strike Kings Little Mr. Money 1/4oz spinnerbaits. I was using Rapala tough line, something similar to Trilenes XT though a little limper. It was windy. Had I been tossing that setup with my old SC or the STX reel it would have been a nightmare. Constant backlashes as the stiffer line would've balled up on the spool during a cast into the wind with the smaller 1/4oz bait. With the Pflueger Patriarch, there were no problems. I could've probably done the same using a Revo S. Those reels (SX & STX) are just too tweaky for me and the mag adjustment is rather ineffective when you're dealing with extremes. Great reels with the right line, rod and bait. Otherwise they're more hassle than they're worth and when I go out onto the water the fishing reel is supposed to work for me, not the other way around. BTW, I was incorrect on the mag braking. Daiwa's V mag system though is radically different than Garcia, or just about anybody elses. The Daiwa system is an active system that is variable acting upon the spool as it spins differently during the cast. It moves without input from the angler. The Garcia system, like most, is a passive system with a fixed brake that's variable only when the control is adjusted. It has no other way to interact with the spool.

In this day and age...... One that's paid for.

OK, OK....... I'm coming out of the closet here. I'm a member of the "Afraid to admit I love listening to ABBA club."

I long for my old Pentax K-1000 manual SLR and hours spent in the darkroom. I'm clueless on how to make these new digital camera's work vs old film camera's. Not to mention photoshop

I'll say. It seems that half the Revo's, Patriarchs or Johnny Morris reels I've purchased over the past 2 years needed lubing of the spool shaft bearing to solve whine on the cast. Brand new BPS Extremes lacking main gear grease that would cause a rough feel when reeling right out of the box. Either these reels are going down the line too fast or somehow a production engineer figured the company would save 5 cents for every 1000 reels if they'd just use a micro liter less of oil per bearing. ;D

I test drove a couple Silver Max's this past year. Revo feel on the rod. Good castability. Unfortunately the reels, when under load with a heavy resistance bait or pulling in a fish had a less than solid feel. There was no mistaking that it was not a metal frame reel. (it's not graphite Btw but a polymer plastic composition). I also had mysterious grinding and clicking noises that seemed to come and go. Disassembled the reels, lubed them but it didn't help. I'm sure the tolerances of parts due to the plastic construction had something to do with it.

Typical asking price for a boat like that in the St Louis area would probably be $1000 - 1200. What you'll get for it is another question. How wide is the hull?

After buying and selling used reels for the past 3 years, I can say the typical BPS reel in the Extreme price point and higher, holds together quite well and isn't any more prone to failure than any other reel. Despite the fact you are forced to go to BPS for service or parts, I've found their parts department very friendly and will bend over backwards to not only get you the parts but make sure you have a reel schematic, for free, if you don't already have one.

Stratos boats won't beat you up.

Wet sanding is the best option, you'll need to make a trip to a store that sells auto body supplies as the grits you'll use aren't normally found in the usual stores. I have taken off oxidation with rubbing compound alone. It's a lot of work. BTW, those sun cracks are probably spiderweb cracks which are basically stress cracks in the gel coat. Not much you can do with them that isn't really labor intensive.

If you look closely, the tail is not that of the G-tail but a regular dead ringer. The G-tails have a thicker tail with serations on the tail end and look like "dead ringers" of the old Ditto Gator tails.

I fish Rogues X raps Husky Jerks Pointers each seems to have a place and time.

$8 for a worm weight? ;D Quickly devising a worm weight retriever as we speak.

I have 2 rods I use for jerkbaits. Both are 6'6", light/extra fast action. One is an All Star Platinum and the other an All Star Titanium Zell Rowland topwater special. Don't let the light power rating fool you, these rods are pretty stiff and have just the right tip action to both work a jerkbait properly and set the hooks.

Bingo. Nope, mag braking was originally introduced to attract less experienced anglers to baitcasters over 25 years ago. It was basically a gimmick as reels at the time had already been fitted with centrifugal brakes. Any angler with enough patience could learn to toss a Daiwa Millionaire or a 5000 series Garcia with minimal problems. Mag braking was merely a sales gimmick to overcome peoples fears of baitcasting reels as ungainly and difficult to use. It worked though most experienced anglers rarely used the mag braking since it didn't do much more than what a trained thumb could do.

I have a Fritts rod for sale in the Flea market. It's a totally fiberglass rod. I've used it a couple times. I now remember what fishing with a fiberglass rod was like. I'll take a composite any day.

Of all $100 + baitcasters on the market, how many don't have centrifugal brakes? 3 - Revo SX, STX and Premiere. When Garcia asked Skeet Reese to design his own signature Revo he requested Centrifugal brakes be added and the linear mag brake removed. I think that speaks for itself.

Way back when, during a time when there were more TM manufacturers in the market place, Motorguides had a really bad reputation for their steering cables breaking. Not to mention other little things. The motors just never seemed to be able to stand up to the abuse a bass fishermen could throw at it. Many of those guys switched and never looked back. I was one of them.

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Bent it or broke it?