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Getting an SLX DC or a Curdo would be an extreme waste of money over the 21 Zillion. If you don't get the zillion, your budget needs to be in the $100 range, then it makes sense. But if your budget is $300, the zillion is such a nobrainer that anyone without one should just forget everything else exists, and get it before the yen spikes up.

Sure, but at least you're buying it from the bigger manufacturers, the ones that have a warranty if something goes wrong (and on those cheap reels, something going wrong is a feature of the reel).

Even tho these reels become grindy within a month, for the price, it looks good. But at the same time, why would a grown ass man that fishes more than once a month bothers with this? This is a reel you give to a kid, or buy it if you aren't sure if fishing as a hobby is something you see yourself getting into. Someone who is on the water multiple times a week should use proper gear, and with the newer tatulas and the slx, you aren't even breaking the bank.

Everyone in-the-know uses the 832, its THE line, but i do use the Berkley X9 for the third season, and love it.

In general, Japanese folks don't try to scam people. I have purchased a lot of used stuff from there, and its always as described.

SLP Works 104, shimano dg04 and shimano dg06 is pretty much all i use. Cal's grease for carbontex washers is great, but you can use dg04 on them and its as good.

7. Since i fish from the bank, its pointless to own a bunch, and i usually sell them when/if i am tired of a certain setup.

$3.5k. But even if it was $3.5M, not much of a difference, both prices are ridiculous for a rod.

Maybe when it comes to baits, but i've seen their rods sold for over $3500k on Japanese auctions. Same with handles, they go pretty high.

What's real something is that i bought their tiny klash and k9 copy off of ali, and the paint on those $8 lures holds better than their $130+ baits.

It certainly is smart, i think they got the hype rolling through socials, and it somehow worked better than everyone else.

lul was gonna say so in my original post, but didn't want to derail the thread into Abu🤣

I don't understand this brand. I see their handles in used condition being sold for over $250, and they look worse than what's LIVRE, Deps and SLP Works does. I've seen plenty of their swimbait rods go for over $3500 on auction. Their lures cost an insane amount, and they can't even be bothered using some quality paint on their lures because they chip like crazy. I just don't get it🤷‍♂️

What line rating were you using with the SV spool when casting light stuff? For me, light is 1/8oz jighead with a 3" Keitech easy shiner. With 10-20lb braid, it cast very easily.

Because just like the t-wing, its one of the most marketable "features" they have. In fact, SV spools and t-wing is pretty much all they can market well. Their gears are awesome, but they ain't doing a great job at marketing them to the public.

lmao i am sure there's at least a few who do it. No way could a person use a daiwa, and not spool swap, or at least thought of doing so.

Why did you replace a reel instead of the spool? But yes, SV is not for distance. Casting lighter lures, being much better than everything else for skipping, casting at head wind and have superior control with non aero dynamic lures is what it excels at, but you ain't casting anywhere near as far as some older Daiwa spools like the Type R+ ones, and a bunch of others. Since i usually fish from the bank, and need max distance, i get rid of all my SV spools.

What did you lose?

Sell a few of your lures and get a Zillion for $200. Its too far ahead of the Tatula to ignore. And no, they aren't using aluminum to save on the cost. The aluminum used is almost guaranteed to be more expensive than brass. They use aluminum because its lighter, and lighter reels are easier to sell. Gears on these reels are so good that you don't need brass, the aluminum ones will last forever.

As a non Abu fan, great upgrade😁

Hold the spool with your thumb and index, and push the spool hard to the right and then left, you should hear a click and it'll spin freely. Had this happen on an aldebaran mgl 30 just last week.

Have you tried them yourself? Never heard of MC Squared.

I am pretty sure that the gears quality on the zillion and alphas are the same. Replace all bushing to quality bearings (not the 10 bearings for $1 on ebay, those are garbage) and the reel will feel like a $500 baitcaster. I did this to my zillion, and its smoother than my steez sv tw.

Then why would you have that on a Steez? It doesn't make any sense to me, and even if this was the case, why not just let them adjust it if they want? No reason to completely change the whole thing. And the funny part is, this so called zero adjuster is being adjusted by the same newbies, so their strategy didn't work at all. To me, as i see it, it was changed because there's way less things going into a zero adjuster cap than what we used to have on a reel like the steez 103 for example. The detail on the cap, the clicking, all of it took more time and effort, so they stripped it all down, and gave us whatever the ugly, and pointless feature we currently have. Every single reel on the market that has a zero adjuster would look superior with older clicking caps, all of them with no exceptions.

Zero adjuster is the most pointless and dumbest "feature" Daiwa has ever made.