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Hey guys. Just bought a flippin set up and was wondering what others thought about they type of line I should be using. Should I use braid or flouro? Give me your thoughts

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fluoro sinks...making your lure drop slightly more realistic (in heavy cover like those lily pads in your picture, the fluoro will get caught on the pads so sink rate is really no different from braid).  It's also hard to see under water, so it's good around sparse cover.  If you watch for nicks in your line, you won't have a problem around timber. 

 

fishing in heavy weeds though...go braid as it will cut through better and give a better hookset.

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Braid all day, every day.

 

No stretch, Solid knot strength, Good abrasion resistance properties in everything except shark rocks, cement pilings, zebra mussels and what ever the heck those trees are on Lake Baccarac.

 

A-Jay

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If your going to be primarily wood or man-made targets than I suggest fluorocarbon.  If your primarily fishing weeds than braid.  If your going to be fishing both and sometimes both the same day I would go with braid and if you really need to add a fluorocarbon leader.

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That sounds good. I lean towards braid. It's what I've been using. I think the only reason I would flouro sounds debatable to me is because it's less visible so I'm gonna spool braid and use a flouro leader when need be. Thanks guys.

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Braid has no sensitivity on a slack line because vibration is deadened. On a slack line, you will feel more with fluror

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I just bought a setup too and went with braid for the reasons already described. I primarily fish weeds.

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Braid has no sensitivity on a slack line because vibration is deadened. On a slack line, you will feel more with fluror

 

true but on slack line using as braid since it floats and especially when using hivis visual detection of line movement, ticks and bounces is highly effective...

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true but on slack line using as braid since it floats and especially when using hivis visual detection of line movement, ticks and bounces is highly effective...

Spoken like a true flippin toon ninja
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True...but when flipping wood isn't ones line going to bounce anyway from hitting branches etc?

I keep it to braid with heavy grass and fluoro for everything else....try both and see which one you prefer.

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thats really a non issue when pitchin wood...for me its easily discernible whether its a fish or cover when line watching comes into play on slack line, just an experience thing...

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I use floro for everything except punching... Rods are too easily broken with braid, I also like the versatility of floro, I can fish it in dark water and Gin clear water, the slack line sensitivity is also nice as I believe it adds a few fish throughout a day on the water. braid is not as effective for clear water in my experience.

 

Mitch 

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never broke a rod because of braid in the somewhere around 20ish years i've used it exclusively, from light power sticks to flippin sticks...that statement "easily broken" is far from accurate...

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If I can get away with using fluoro, I do so. I hate braid and really only use it in instances where i have to move fish in a very fast manner.

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I understand they are both better for different things but I'm already buying rods and reels for different techniques. I'm not gonna go buy two flippin sticks and two reels so I can spool one with braid and one with flouro unless/until I start fishing serious money tourneys. So wouldn't the idea of spooling braid and using a flouro leader when needed solve the issue? I know it may not have the sensitivity of all flouro but like I said, my main point in why'd I'd use flouro at all would be because of the invisibility factor. A flouro leader when needed would solve that issue

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if you have one set up for flipping into heavy grass/weeds/wood etc, use braid.

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65# braid ;)

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never broke a rod because of braid in the somewhere around 20ish years i've used it exclusively, from light power sticks to flippin sticks...that statement "easily broken" is far from accurate...

 

each person is different, but if I set the hook hard with 50-65# braid on a bass over 5 lbs while flipping especially in heavy cover there is a decent chance of breaking that rod, if the fish is actually a log its going to break, I lock my drags totally down and remove the grease from the drag to increase max drag. I like having the stretch of mono or floro so when I am not thinking and set too hard I wont break the flippin stick... if braid works for you that is great keep using it, but rods really can break easily dont believe me put a 10 lb weight on 65 lb braid and pick it up with your rod ( this wil simulate setting into a log or rock) give it a couple of bounces, you might not like the results... 7' XH/MF or H/MF night be able to handle 10 lbs but setting hard into a solid object will put more than 10 lbs of strain on the rod...

 

Mitch

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I use straight braid 100% of the time flipping now days. Granted the majority of my flipping is done in grass so...

 

I've never had a problem feeling the strike while using braid, I know guys complain about the "slack line" issue but it hasn't been a problem for me. Before going to braid I was using 20# fluoro and I can't tell a difference in the number of, or quality, of my fish. Not saying there isn't truth in their argument I'm simply saying I much prefer braid and it's easier handling compared to heavy fluoro. Even when I flip/pitch to wood or docks I still go straight braid. I'm not sure this is the best strategy here, I'm simply to lazy to tie on a leader just for the few docks or brush I might flip in a days time. If I were fishing for money and knew the wood/dock bite was going to be a factor I'd definitely rig up a leader.      

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If I set the hook hard with 50-65# braid on a bass over 5 lbs while flipping especially in heavy cover there is a decent chance of breaking that rod, if the fish is actually a log its going to break.Mitch

Seems to me

you've had to already done some sort of damage to the rod either by hitting it off something or whatnot. Explain the guys who punch on big O all day landing 5-10lb fish with braid and drags locked down. Not a single broken rod. Personally I've set the hook on multiple occasions that wasn't a fish and never broken a rod. I ended up straightening my hook out before the line breaks trying to pull it loose. 4/5ot gammy ewg superline. Saying that braid breaks rods is false.

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each person is different, but if I set the hook hard with 50-65# braid on a bass over 5 lbs while flipping especially in heavy cover there is a decent chance of breaking that rod, if the fish is actually a log its going to break, I lock my drags totally down and remove the grease from the drag to increase max drag. I like having the stretch of mono or floro so when I am not thinking and set too hard I wont break the flippin stick... if braid works for you that is great keep using it, but rods really can break easily dont believe me put a 10 lb weight on 65 lb braid and pick it up with your rod ( this wil simulate setting into a log or rock) give it a couple of bounces, you might not like the results... 7' XH/MF or H/MF night be able to handle 10 lbs but setting hard into a solid object will put more than 10 lbs of strain on the rod...

 

Mitch

 

sorry but i don't care how you slice it, its a false statement...your obviously doing something wrong and its user error if your snapping rods or bad blanks...how you fish is nothing special & not unique...99% of what i do is heavy cover work and your trying to tell me to try some goofy test to prove your point?  your preaching to the choir...i don't need to do any test, my proof is on the water ripping fish out of the heaviest junk i can find year after year and i have never broke a stick because of using braid...am i unique or just lucky? no i am not...

 

your are the only person i have ever heard make such a statement...

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Here's 17 minutes of flipping heavy cover on Big O and not a single broken rod. Not a one!

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each person is different, but if I set the hook hard with 50-65# braid on a bass over 5 lbs while flipping especially in heavy cover there is a decent chance of breaking that rod, if the fish is actually a log its going to break, I lock my drags totally down and remove the grease from the drag to increase max drag. I like having the stretch of mono or floro so when I am not thinking and set too hard I wont break the flippin stick... if braid works for you that is great keep using it, but rods really can break easily dont believe me put a 10 lb weight on 65 lb braid and pick it up with your rod ( this wil simulate setting into a log or rock) give it a couple of bounces, you might not like the results... 7' XH/MF or H/MF night be able to handle 10 lbs but setting hard into a solid object will put more than 10 lbs of strain on the rod...

 

Mitch

Mitch,

 

No offense here brother,  but if that were the case, braid would have been put to death a long time ago.

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I am not trying to say if you use braid you will break a rod... each person sets the hook differently, my point is that you have a higher probability of breaking a rod using braided line due to the small amount of stretch of this line. and like I said earlier I use braid just not for flipping unless I am using a punching technique then it works much better in my opinion... I have broken a few rods on hard hooksets in the past all using braid and heavy flipping hooks, the rods were in good shape with no damage on the blank just a strong hookset and they broke. I am not the only guy who has broken rods, but I do know that since I switched to a line with more stretch than braid I have not broke any... I also never said that braid breaks rods, people break rods, or rods are defective from the factory I dont put any blame on my rods breaking on braid, its is all on me for setting the hook a little too hard, so to compensate for human error I use the more forgiving lines... 

 

Mitch

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Braid and a hard hook set will not break a rod unless it's previously damaged or blemed from the factory.

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