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I want to experiment with either mono or fluoro leader tied to braid. I have tried a few knots and nothing holds immediately upon tying! I carefully follow the instructions for knots claiming to be a good one! What is a knot that works?

 

Do you favor mono or fluoro if you fish a leader? For soft plastic baits fished in cover.

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I use fluoro for a better sink rate and because it stretches a little more than mono - providing a little "give" to otherwise zero stretch braid.   I would say the majority of people use either the uni-uni knot or Alberto knot with success.  The "J" knot won on the battle of strength on Knot Wars and its the easiest to tie, however, a little more challenging if you are tying a longer leader.  

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I use the uni-to-uni knot, and use fluoro as a leader. After using it the past couple years I can now tie a leader on in about 30 seconds. You didn't mention the knots you have tried, but if they are coming apart as soon as you tie them it sounds like you are doing something wrong.

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Uni - Uni is my goto knot. Never had one fail yet and i think its the easiest to tie.

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I had been using the uni-2-uni for the past 3 years.  This winter I focused on learning the Alberto because it was supposed to be better ... stronger ....

 

I am a believer.  Worth learning.  It is amazingly strong.

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Personally, I've only got confidence in the uni-to-uni knot.  I've played around with a few of the others from the couch and cannot get them to hold consistently so I've never tried them on the water.

 

It's nice to get a smaller knot, but my rods handle the uni-to-uni knot size just fine.  No casting issues worth mentioning...

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I use fluoro leaders to braid and always use the alberto knot.  It's easy with practice.

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I know the uni-uni works well and for lots of people.  I could never tie it well personally.  I use the Alberto/modified albright, absolutely love it and I've never had a knot fail.  I hate saying and typing that haha, feel I might jinx it!  My advice is practice tying a knot you like and get confidence in it.  

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Personally, I've only got confidence in the uni-to-uni knot.  I've played around with a few of the others from the couch and cannot get them to hold consistently so I've never tried them on the water.

 

It's nice to get a smaller knot, but my rods handle the uni-to-uni knot size just fine.  No casting issues worth mentioning...

 

Same here Chris ~

 

The design of the uni-to-uni knot just makes sense to me which does breed confidence in it as well.

 

 I can tie it easily, Never, ever had one fail while fighting a fish and that's all that matters to me.

 

I also like that I can adjust the number of turns with either the mono & / or the braid, depending on size, which helps with the knot's over all size.  The larger sizes usually get a turn or two less while the smaller size lines / braids may get a few more.

 

A-Jay

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I still use a blood knot, and have had no issues at all

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I use my own version of the Alberto, it's pretty darn good.  Fishing 7 days a week some where along the line I'm going to have knot that looks good but may not be.  100% without ever a failure is too absolute, it's gonna happen with any knot eventually. 

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I use my own version of the Alberto, it's pretty darn good.  Fishing 7 days a week some where along the line I'm going to have knot that looks good but may not be.  100% without ever a failure is too absolute, it's gonna happen with any knot eventually. 

what is your variation if I may ask?

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Do the lines have to be similar lbs. or similar diameter to hold?

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I use an Albright knot, 14 wraps and the key is to make sure the tag end goes back through the loop in same way the main line came in. Also make sure you take your time tightening it, and pull in the main lines to snug it. There are some great videos on YouTube as well.

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I'm really liking the looks of the fg knot and with an average of 90% knot strength, impressive. What many ppl don't realize is a line to line knot is the weakest knot anglers routinely use. Most have less than 50% knot strength. What I mean by that is, if you're using a 12lb leader the knot is going to fail between 6-8lbs. Few knots ever give you much over 75%, an exceptions is the Palomar knot, which actually yields 100%. The fg knot is the strongest leader knot I've ever heard of, for that reason alone it's worth learning and using.

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I'm going to try that FG knot. The only thing is it seems impossible to tie on the water in 20 mph winds with my 57 yo eyes, lol.

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I tie Uni and Trilene knots.

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what is your variation if I may ask?

I go only with up wraps and no wraps coming back down.  Strength or lack of is no issue, using a host of different knots every once in a while the knot just unravels for a reason I can't explain.  Fishing over 300 days a year with multiple rods that's a lot of knots, the percentage is quite low.  All I can say is, it just happens a few times a year.  Kinda reminds of the time I asked an appliance salesman how does one sock disappear from the dryer, he said @$%^^* happens.

 

I don't need the strongest knot, big fish pull drag which takes pressure off the knot, the knot doesn't break.  If I'm snagged (or a fish too big too land) I want to be able to break it off, that said the break off is usually at the lure and not the joining knot.

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I go only with up wraps and no wraps coming back down.  Strength or lack of is no issue, using a host of different knots every once in a while the knot just unravels for a reason I can't explain.  Fishing over 300 days a year with multiple rods that's a lot of knots, the percentage is quite low.  All I can say is, it just happens a few times a year.  Kinda reminds of the time I asked an appliance salesman how does one sock disappear from the dryer, he said @$%^^* happens.

 

I don't need the strongest knot, big fish pull drag which takes pressure off the knot, the knot doesn't break.  If I'm snagged (or a fish too big too land) I want to be able to break it off, that said the break off is usually at the lure and not the joining knot.

Gotcha. I feel the same way, my knot connection never breaks, only somewhere along the leader which means it has great strength and like you said, I want it to be breakable just beyond a reasonable point.

 

just to clarify:

 

Albright Knot: Only wraps down

Modified albright = Alberto Knot: wraps up and down

 

Only wraps up is actually more of a clinch and technically not an abright or alberto, but im just arguing semantics like a terd :)

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I use a flouro leader and an Alberto knot, works like a champ.

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