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I am in a quandary.

I cannot decide if a left handed or right handed bait casting reel is best to get crank baits to run genuinely true - absolutely, objectively, measurably at a 90° angle to the plane defined by the axis of my reel.

I am naturally right handed, but am gifted with the ability to be ambidextrous with many things.  I can bat, cast a fly rod, shoot both handguns and shotguns...and um...at least one other ...um...activity...equally well with both hands.

Looking at the formula for torque:

T = F * r * sin(theta)

Where:

T = torque

F = linear force

r = distance measured from the axis of rotation to where the linear force is applied

theta = the angle between F and r

...I am concerned that as a natural right hander, I am applying force to the rod, the reel handle and the axis of the crank that will cause crank-baits to run off center.

Looking at this animation:

Torque_animation.gif

...makes me virtually certain that I am indeed doing something wrong and that continuing to do so will cost me thousands of fish per year...or worse, have me only catching dinks.

Keeping in mind that I am ignoring the effects or weather, the solunar tables, and it I had a dark beer or an IPA the evening before...what does this august body of bass fishing expertise think is the best solution to my problem?

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My therapist is a fly fisherman...a purist...can't come to terms with the idea that anyone would ever use a spinning reel...much less a baitcaster...

...my therapist also wears tweed and smokes a pipe.  You can't really trust a woman that does that.

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By therapy, we mean beer…

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1 minute ago, J Francho said:

By therapy, we mean beer…

Scotch works better :)

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9 minutes ago, J Francho said:

By therapy, we mean beer…

OK...but dark (like Founder's Russian Imperial Stout), or light (like Dogfish Head 120 triple IPA)?

7 minutes ago, Fun4Me said:

Scotch works better :)

Blended or single malt?

Islay, Speyside, Highlands or Lowlands?

I favor Speyside...but that may be part of the problem.

It causes my axis to tilt off to one side...

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Golf……………….oh crap now you have to figure out left or right handed………….here we go again…………..so sorry.   yeah beer it is.

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I don't do golf any more...silly game, takes time away from fishing and hunting...

I could also consider a nice glass of wine, perhaps a nice chianti with fava beans...though my personal taste runs more to Argentine Malbecs

...but given the amazing number of trophy bass coming out of west coast lakes...perhaps a rich, lusty California Cab would be be best?  Perhaps I can pick up a little west coast mojo by slurping sipping some tenuous link at a natural level?

Problem is...my crankbaits are still running off center...or maybe it's me?

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I think my head just exploded reading that. You my friend, might be on the verge of insanity. (no offense) You're making it harder than it has to be. Throw a natural colored crankbait in a depth range slightly deeper than the water depth. Cast out, reel in, deflect it off of things, catch fish. If the fish are only small find a place with known larger fish. I cant fish plastics for the life of me, but give me a crank or spinnerbait and its on. I like the DT series but have other brands. Usually a DT6 in fire tiger or shad color. Thats it. Sometimes the fish like it to run a little weird too. 

Have you tried tuning the line tie? Are you using a spinning reel? 

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12 minutes ago, flyfisher said:

troll post?  

Mmmmm...noooo....

 

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19 minutes ago, DelcoSol said:

Have you tried tuning the line tie?

I have, but I can't figure out what note to tune it to.  I did figure out that I can't B-Sharp...

21 minutes ago, DelcoSol said:

Are you using a spinning reel? 

The shaft in the middle of the reel is spinning...I wonder if the problem is that it is spinning almost 90° to the direction of the line?

Maybe my issue is more gyroscopic than torque realted?  You may be onto something here!

Or maybe that's just the Cragganmore talking...

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I think the problem is you are using left handed rods with right hand reels. Or is it the other way around?

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50 minutes ago, Fishes in trees said:

If you need to get your cranks to run correctly, there isn't any substitute for a crank bait tuning tool.  You can look it up in your gear bible (BPS Master catalog)

OK... I just looked that up...it really exists. :huh:

I thought for sure I'd find that next to the left handed screw drivers and just down from the striped ink...

31 minutes ago, Scott F said:

I think the problem is you are using left handed rods with right hand reels. Or is it the other way around?

You could be right Scott...when I turn my right handed rods around to try to use them left handed...I can't get past the rod sticking out behind me instead of in front...it's too hard for me to cast that way, despite my ambidexterity.  It took me a while to learn how to reel backwards with my spinning reels too...but I eventually got a handle on that.

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Drink enough scotch & you will not know if it's running true & if you did you would not give a darn.

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Well, this certainly lightened up the day. Very entertaining!

:respect-040:

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4 minutes ago, scbassin said:

Drink enough scotch & you will not know if it's running true & if you did you would not give a darn.

Good thought. 

Should I hold the glass in my right hand or my left hand?  Thinking about that for a moment...that's gonna be a moot point after a while as I'll need both hands...

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You have to leave the drink sitting on the front deck of the boat & drink it thru a straw so your hands are free.

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Does the crankbait' wobble start to the left or the right?  Like the first time you start reeling?  If it is right, you need a left handed spinning reel mounted on a right handed casting rod.  If it is to the left, it's just not right!

Jeff

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17 hours ago, Further North said:

I am in a quandary.

I cannot decide if a left handed or right handed bait casting reel is best to get crank baits to run genuinely true - absolutely, objectively, measurably at a 90° angle to the plane defined by the axis of my reel.

I am naturally right handed, but am gifted with the ability to be ambidextrous with many things.  I can bat, cast a fly rod, shoot both handguns and shotguns...and um...at least one other ...um...activity...equally well with both hands.

Looking at the formula for torque:

T = F * r * sin(theta)

Where:

T = torque

F = linear force

r = distance measured from the axis of rotation to where the linear force is applied

theta = the angle between F and r

...I am concerned that as a natural right hander, I am applying force to the rod, the reel handle and the axis of the crank that will cause crank-baits to run off center.

Looking at this animation:

Torque_animation.gif

...makes me virtually certain that I am indeed doing something wrong and that continuing to do so will cost me thousands of fish per year...or worse, have me only catching dinks.

Keeping in mind that I am ignoring the effects or weather, the solunar tables, and it I had a dark beer or an IPA the evening before...what does this august body of bass fishing expertise think is the best solution to my problem?

Jesus, it´s barely September, I can´t imagine how will your posts look like in January. :whistle:

For crying out loud man, don´t try so hard to complicate things, the reel has nothing to do with a crank running true or crooked.

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I'm guessing he's not Haysoos...been a while since I lived in sconnie, but that wasn't the most common moniker...maybe Al...or Fred...Vince....or even Bart....probably a few Brett's in the last few years, but I knew very few Haysooses

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15 minutes ago, Raul said:

Jesus, it´s barely September, I can´t imagine how will your posts look like in January. :whistle:

For crying out loud man, don´t try so hard to complicate things, the reel has nothing to do with a crank running true or crooked.

Hmmm....Dude:

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He just had his muffler bearings adjusted, give the man a break, lol.

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8 minutes ago, Choporoz said:

I'm guessing he's not Haysoos...been a while since I lived in sconnie, but that wasn't the most common moniker...maybe Al...or Fred...Vince....or even Bart....probably a few Brett's in the last few years, but I knew very few Haysooses

Yeah...not a lotta Scandahoovian guys named Jesus around here.

7 minutes ago, J Francho said:

He just had his muffler bearings adjusted, give the man a break, lol.

Hey!  How'd you know that?  That was supposed to be a secret.  I don't wan the government knowing about by muffler bearings. :annoyed1:

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In order for you to calculate this correctly, you must also compensate for the effects of wind/wave/current influences, water temperature effects on lure resistance due to changes in density,  vector and velocity of boat movement (are you trolling, coasting, or completely still?), and equatorial proximity. Are your crankbaits skewed to the opposite side if you're fishing in the Southern hemisphere?

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