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I live in pa, water is pretty cold. Want to try some Underspins, wondering what heads you guys recommend, what rod, reel gearing and line size. Area I will be fishing will have max depth 10', mostly 6' range. Thanks!

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Most underspins are designed for water that is deeper than that, I would go with the lightest underspin you can find, and maybe throw it on heavier line like  a 12 or 15lb test mono to keep it a little higher in the water column. They are meant to be fished S-L-O-W in the cold! I would use a medium action casting rod since it's an open hook. I often throw mine on a cranking rod. 6:4:1.

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What kind of water will you be fishing? 10' and current on the Susquehanna or Delaware and 10' of depth in a farm pond fish a bit differently.  As for ideal rods, I like medium action, moderate-fast rods most of the time fished using braid with leaders ranging from 6-12lb test depending upon the depth, cover, etc.  

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I make my own underspins, I use a 1/4oz on a medium power spinning rod. I'm in PA as well and I find the underspins work great in cold water, I like using a small 3.5" to 4" swimbait on the back in water 50 degrees and above and for water under 40 degrees I use a 4" fluke style bait and they seem to work well when fish aren't interested in a jerkbait or if the water is dingy. I fish them primarily in 10' of less and I keep my rod tip at 10 o'clock and reel just fast enough that I tick the bottom every now and again.

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I throw them a ton.  My favorite shallow set up is:

Owner Flashy Swimmer 5/0, 1/4oz  with a Keitech 4.8   (3.8 Keitechs get the 3/0, 3/16oz)

I throw them on a 7'2"MHR Daiwa Tatula with a TDZ and 30lb braid with Fluoro leader.

Slow ratio helps with keeping them down.  Flashy swimmer is d**n close to weedless.

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Underspins work year round, trust me. I won a tournament at the end of July this year fishing them around dam walls and weed edges and pockets. 

I throw mine on casting gear normally. Here's what I used most of the summer:

Shimano Stile 5.8:1
St Croix Avid 7' M fast action (I'll go up to a MH for 1/2oz and bigger)
14lb Sunline Sniper
Keitech Fat Impacts (I used everything from 2.8" up to 4.3" depending on size of the bait. That little 2.8" is a killer for finicky fish.)
Doyle Custom Baits 3" and 4" Zippers

As for the underspin itself, I either use the Sworming Hornet FishHead spin or the new Eco Pro Tungsten one's. Both are about the same price, but the Eco Pro are much higher quality, including a Trokar hook. 

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I like the Picasso Double Barrel Underspins - the head aligns better with various trailers and you can work it really slow.

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What?  No Blakemore Road Runners?  Used to be that Jimmy Houston wouldn't be caught without one.  Living in the past. LOL

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The thing that drives me crazy about underspins is they don't always list the hook size they use. Make sure you get the appropriate size to accommodate whatever baits you'll be using. I honestly haven't seen enough better results than using a regular swimbait head to justify the price difference. 

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During the BassResource RoadTrip at Pickwick a few years ago I had my VERY BEST day ever in terms of numbers fishing the Sworming Hornet/ LFT Live Magic Shad. 79 bass in one day!

 

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1 hour ago, roadwarrior said:

During the BassResource RoadTrip at Pickwick a few years ago I had my VERY BEST day ever in terms of numbers fishing the Sworming Hornet/ LFT Live Magic Shad. 79 bass in one day!

 

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You beat my record of 62 in one day.

Never used an underspin. May consider using one next year.

Thanks for the input.

Merry Christmas.

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14 hours ago, The Bassman said:

What?  No Blakemore Road Runners?  Used to be that Jimmy Houston wouldn't be caught without one.  Living in the past. LOL

Funny that you say that I used to use them a ton for crappie and would also catch bass when fished with the 2" solid body tubes they had. Well fast forward a few years, like 15, and now that I fish for bass instead of crappie I haven't dragged them out in well about 15 years. Next year I will have to give them a go, I have a handful in bass sizes, but the panfish ones would make great post front baits.

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I use Roadrunners . I figure I'm going to lose a few and others are too expensive . If I need it to sink faster , or cast further its easily done .

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Sworming Hornet fish head spin.

Tom

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I use the horse head style. I got used to the little versions of those for crappie and just stuck with what I know.

I fish them pretty quickly and use them in more of a yo-yo type retrieve. It would be between the pace of a blade bait and hair jig. Spy baits are more productive for me and stay down much easier in the cast & slow retrieve department.

When the fish are biting them my goodness do they bite them.

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Try my method:

Cast and let the lure float to the bottom.  Keeping the angle of your rod at 10:00, reel quickly about 5 rotations, lean forward and allow the bait to fall on slack line. If it makes it to the bottom, repeat. Fish the bait back until you feel you are "out of the zone".The strike is ALWAYS on the fall and difficult to detect until you have some experience fishing the lure. No need for a Bill Dance hook-set, use a quick set or reel set.

 

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Just a slow retrieve had the smallmouth eating it on Lk St Clair in mid November. I agree with the reel set. It's hard not to want to jerk when you feel them bite but if you can just keep reeling and they'll be on eventually.

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Other than small Roadrunners, I have never used a underspin jighead.  But, I do have a good sized stash of these guys:

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I bought them during a TW sale with an eye to use them for kayak trolling for striped bass.  I tried them a few times for freshwater with a Fat Impact, but they the blade would snag something fierce on any vegetation they would encounter.   I was using a MH rod and could rip them out, but the blade wouldn't spin anymore until I cleared it.  Is there anyway to prevent this, or just try and keep it out of the weeds? 

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I've caught tons of bass on Roadrunners, but I have yet to catch a single bass on a larger Under spin. I can catch them on paddletails on plain jigheads, but if I switch to an underspin, nadda. 

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I love the CoolBaits underspins. I normally use the 3/16th with a 2.8 but if it's 10' and under I like the 1/8th a lot better. It does seem to work best swimming really, really slow. It still looks good moving faster but I don't get bit.

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   I started using roadrunners many years ago, and found they not only worked good fished slow and off the bottom just a bit, But they also kick butt when bass are busting baitballs on the surface, cast beyond the breaking bait and bring the runner right thru them, if you've chosen the proper color/size combo, hold on. I just recently bought some larger versions at bass pro, I think they are from strike king, cant wait to try them on these herring fed lakes up here. As these newer ones are heavier, and have bigger blades, I have some nice plastics for these, and hope they work like im figuring.

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Fished the Susky in PA in November and did well with the Dave's Tnmt Tackle underspins using 3.8 fat impacts. They were 1/4 oz but in current it takes them down well and they swing around to the current seam at the eddy pool and got hammered.

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On ‎12‎/‎2‎/‎2016 at 5:53 PM, roadwarrior said:

Try my method:

Cast and let the lure float to the bottom.  Keeping the angle of your rod at 10:00, reel quickly about 5 rotations, lean forward and allow the bait to fall on slack line. If it makes it to the bottom, repeat. Fish the bait back until you feel you are "out of the zone".The strike is ALWAYS on the fall and difficult to detect until you have some experience fishing the lure. No need for a Bill Dance hook-set, use a quick set or reel set.

 

:santa-107: 

Interesting process ... The myth is underspins are used  only in the Winter crawled across the bottom slowly .

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I also just ordered one of those underspin, ecopro tungsten 1/4oz. I plan to use this with elaztech stuffs like 4" finesse shad, 4" paddle tail and 5" fluke style shad. Would this work in CA? Anyone wanna share any tip and trick? (I also order zman diezel spin which one you think work better and in what time of year)

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