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LMB on Long Deep Points - Up, Down or Across?

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If you hate the c-rig, a big worm on a swing head style jig is a really good alternative. Easy to keep bottom contact and is slightly different presentation than the bass are use to seeing. 

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2 hours ago, Choporoz said:

May not matter to your assessment,  but I have something in my settings screwed up.  The lines aren't 5'.  They are closer to 3'....max depth in that area is about 40'....not 65+

 

On Toledo Bend or Rayburn everybody & their brother are fishing these obvious structures from pre-spawn through fall.

 

Which is fine with me cause they're leaving me the rest of the lake.

 

My late winter & early pre-spawn fishing on these types of points occurs long before anybody else realizes the fish are there.

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Over the past 25 years,  as electronics have improved and I have gain confidence in them my approach to fishing points and other structure has slowly changed.   I try to be more efficient by focusing more on what I consider key spots on the structure instead of fan casting large areas.  There are exceptions of course.  I will scan the structure and decide if I want to fish it based on what I see.  Knowing how to read a map and how to interpret sonar is critical to efficiently fishing structure these days.  Lakemaster maps have been a game changer for me.

 

Thanks for starting a great thread @Choporoz

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I hit points from all angles and sides, especially when the winds are constantly shifting. 

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On ‎6‎/‎11‎/‎2019 at 4:39 PM, A-Jay said:

I turn off all my electronics. 

Deja vu. I've mentioned this to folks before and they look at me like I'm crazy. The "pinging" from your transducer CAN spook fish. Once I've learned the structure in an area and have committed it to memory or paper, the sonar goes off.

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6 hours ago, A-Jay said:

"Points" are sort of low hanging fruit; as they are usually pretty easy to find & perhaps even fish somewhat effectively.  This does not in any way diminish them as a very reliable & productive bait & bass holding structure.

However, by utilizing some of what is available in electronics & mapping today, enables me to find, mark & very effectively fish, the spot on the spot. 

Might be a point, might not.

#thejuice

:smiley:

A-Jay

 

 

Bass can't hide anymore. Using side scan is like taking candy from a baby when you are trying to find the spot on the spot.

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  I'll normally attack a point by paralleling casting, working my way down the side with the more gradual slope or the side the wind is blowing in to. I fish mainly natural lakes and points rarely extend out more than 50yrds. If one does, I'll divide it into sections going deep to shallow and back out again as I move down the sides.

 One of the most important things I've learned recently is that boat positioning/casting angle can, at times, make the difference between catching and casting practice. That one piece of knowledge has kept the skunk away on a number of occasions when I applied it to fishing points. Bottom line is that no one way of doing things is the best way.

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Lots of great info here. I try to drag uphill -- better bottom contact -- but sometimes the bottom is too chunky for that and baits get pinned in the rocks too often.

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I'm going to have to invest in side scan one of these years .

 

 I do it the old fashioned way . See   a likely spot on the point  such as fish ,cover , irregularity ... toss a marker buoy near the spot  then fish that area , usually with a Texas rig and crankbait . The cast may be uphill , downhill or across . If I dont hook up in about fifteen minutes I move on .Often I  fish the entire length of the point   out to  the thermocline , searching for fish  . In that situation I also employ a Carolina rig with 3/4 ounce weight . Then I like to position in deep water and cast on top of the point .

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Back in the 90's I agreed to take out a angler that we had lunch with at the local tackle shop, very unusual for me. We hit it off ok although he was a regular tournament angler but seemed honestly interested in learning how to fish jigs in lieu of finesse soft platstics all the time. To make a long story short we met at the lake went to a major point and sure enough a boat was sitting on it, I waited for the host to move while showing Gary on another point how to watch the line and work a jig. 

The boat moved off and we moved near the point as my sketch defines except I told Gary's to make his 1st cast nearer the mid section because the other boat. Gary's line jump slack and he didn't react. I told him to make another cast right at thr back of the boat that was moving off knowing where a rock pile was located. Gary's line agian jumped slack and I told him to set the hook, he did and caught his 1st ever DD bass.

Gary tells this story to anyone who will liston, he hasn't ever caught a 2nd DD bass.

Just because someone else is fishing a well known point doesn't mean they know what they are doing. Luck plays a big roll in bass fishing but knowing when and where to fish with the right lure at the right time helps.

Tom

PS, couldn't duplicate that in a 100 trips.

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Break out the 6,8,10XDs and other deep cranks on it. My coworker parallel casts points in depths effective for the lure and always catches quality. It's amazing how deep cranking produces giants. Swing heads with Biffle Bugs are awesome too. Almost like a finesse cranking technique. Done very well on long points with them this year. 

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