Amazing

[Oregon Native]

Reading the posts about trout plantings bring back memories of fishing in the west and peoples pursuit of the planted trout.  I just smile at the memories of watching people go swimming for their fish when it would come off the line or chase it down a muddy bank to slowly watch it swim away just out of reach.  Also the caravans of cars following the planting trucks..... And their is sadness too.....bass were trash in Oregon so got very little respect....probably  less now...but YEAH......since I've moved to Tennessee it's like a big HUG....everyone seems to respect others fishing....Love it....

Oh and I got a HUGE smile when I see that you can use trout for bait out here....amazing....yes it is.

Tight Lines

[Bluebasser86]

Trout stocking season brings out the worst kind of fishermen here. No respect for anyone or anything really. I've had more rude and inconsiderate contact with trout fishermen those 1 or 2 months of every year than any other group of fishermen all season long. I'd rather deal with pleasure boaters than trout fishermen, at least they can plead ignorance.

[12poundbass]

4 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Trout stocking season brings out the worst kind of fishermen here. No respect for anyone or anything really. I've had more rude and inconsiderate contact with trout fishermen those 1 or 2 months of every year than any other group of fishermen all season long. I'd rather deal with pleasure boaters than trout fishermen, at least they can plead ignorance.

That’s the experience I’ve had the two times I’ve went steelhead fishing here in Michigan. That was enough for me, too many crazy anglers in that group. I’m sure most aren’t, but I’ll stick to bass. 

[Oregon Native]

Cold water fishermen seem to have a totally different mind set....maybe just me....but I'll hang out with the bass guys too.  Have done it all....I'll take warm water for peace.  Although I can get cranky when a young buck pulls in front of ya within casting distance!!!

[TimberTodd]

With the mismanagement of the salmon/steelhead runs and dwindling returns, stocker trout seems to be ODFW's focus now. You're correct Oregon Native for the most part bass are still looked down upon, but some are coming to terms with the fact that warm water species are where fishing in Oregon is headed. I myself steer clear of stocked trout and the crowds they bring. Steelhead fishing on the coastal tributaries can be a serious test to ones patience with other anglers. 

[Glenn]

2 minutes ago, TimberTodd said:

You're correct Oregon Native for the most part bass are still looked down upon, but some are coming to terms with the fact that warm water species are where fishing in Oregon is headed.

It's the exact opposite in Washington.  There's a proposal right now on the table to eliminate all bass and catfish, in the name of the Holy Salmon.  And yes, I mean exterminate them all.  Their reasoning? Bass eat salmon...we need to save the salmon...ergo we must kill all the bass to save the salmon.  Mind you, there's not a single study that shows bass have any negative impact on salmon.

 

And yet, you can still fish for, and kill....salmon.

 

That is literally how stupid the people at the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife are!

 

[MN Fisher]

19 minutes ago, Glenn said:

It's the exact opposite in Washington.  There's a proposal right now on the table to eliminate all bass and catfish, in the name of the Holy Salmon.  And yes, I mean exterminate them all.  Their reasoning? Bass eat salmon...we need to save the salmon...ergo we must kill all the bass to save the salmon.  Mind you, there's not a single study that shows bass have any negative impact on salmon.

 

And yet, you can still fish for, and kill....salmon.

 

That is literally how stupid the people at the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife are!

 

It's not just the WDFW, the MNDNR occasionally puts out a proposal to eliminate Bass to open the waters up for the 'Holy Walleye'. Same lack of studies on the impact of Bass on Walleye production.

[TimberTodd]

Glenn the majority along with ODFW have that same mindset as in Washington. They would also like to eliminate walleye from the Columbia if they could. I'm seeing more interest in bass fishing from anglers than in the past.

[Hammer 4]

In my trout stocking post, my reason for that was, when they do the trout stocking, the swimbait fishing for bass takes off. I don't fish for trout or any other types of fish. Re: that it brings out the worst in people, well it does for some, like the guys that will catch a trout, then use it for bait to catch bass, But, that is Illegal here. What I found most guys who do this fish from shore.

[J._Bricker]

5 hours ago, Glenn said:

It's the exact opposite in Washington.  There's a proposal right now on the table to eliminate all bass and catfish, in the name of the Holy Salmon.  And yes, I mean exterminate them all.  Their reasoning? Bass eat salmon...we need to save the salmon...ergo we must kill all the bass to save the salmon.  Mind you, there's not a single study that shows bass have any negative impact on salmon.

 

And yet, you can still fish for, and kill....salmon.

 

That is literally how stupid the people at the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife are!

 

@Glenn, same argument being applied here in the People’s Democratic Republic of California. Except it’s to help Big Ag justify increasing water exports from the Delta for almond orchards in the San Joaquin valley. Those “Wonderful” growers plan to have Metropolitan Water District ratepayers pay for the infrastructure to do it.

 

Sorry got sidetracked, black and striped bass are easy targets for the West Coast salmonid declines...

[WRB]

When I lived in Washington for a year (1969) largemouth bass were considered a trash fish and couldn't find another bass fisherman in the Puget sound region.

The Washington Oregon Columbia River area bass fishing was common and most of Oregon had good smallmouth bass fishing in the rivers shared by cold water steelhead and Salmon anglers. Planted rainbow trout in both states tended to attract a different type of angler that fished for food rather then sport and it's the same in California regarding planted trout.

I grew up on a multi specie lake in California with trout and bass, the anglers were sportsmen and shared the water, different era.

Tom

[WRB]

7 hours ago, Glenn said:

It's the exact opposite in Washington.  There's a proposal right now on the table to eliminate all bass and catfish, in the name of the Holy Salmon.  And yes, I mean exterminate them all.  Their reasoning? Bass eat salmon...we need to save the salmon...ergo we must kill all the bass to save the salmon.  Mind you, there's not a single study that shows bass have any negative impact on salmon.

 

And yet, you can still fish for, and kill....salmon.

 

That is literally how stupid the people at the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife are!

 

Same thinking is going on in California DFW who consider bass a non native invasive species damaging the Salmon and Steelhead smolt population in the San Jauqine Delta area. I believe the local communities have stopped the DFW from full implementation.

2018 the Chinook Salmon population in the Delta region was teetering on endangered specie, 2019 we had the largest recruitment class of young Chinook Slamon in 20 years....what happened?.....it rained.

Crazy folks running our DFW.

Tom

 

[Oregon Native]

Reading all your posts and shaking my head in sadness.....times are changing.  We all know slime rockets are not the smartest fish that swim...especially with the right power bait.  Why you can even throw out some pea gravel while your on the bank and get em started biting....it replicates the feeders action.  

Anyway...maybe "planted" trout were created for this day and age where some people just like things handed to them and it's EASY....hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Sorry not a thought for the beginning of a beautiful day.

Tight Lines

[skekoam]

If you think trout fisherman are bad, have you encountered cat fisherman?  ughhh...  A few weeks ago, I saw two guys almost get in a fist fight over a stinkin catfish.  Geeeze.

[Bluebasser86]

11 hours ago, skekoam said:

If you think trout fisherman are bad, have you encountered cat fisherman?  ughhh...  A few weeks ago, I saw two guys almost get in a fist fight over a stinkin catfish.  Geeeze.

Catfishermen stay put typically. Trout guys are mobile and not afraid to cast over your line, and come right over next to you if they see you catch a fish. Plus it's a very short season so they come out in mass when the trout are first dumped. Trout guys in boats are the apex of idiocy.

[Oregon Native]

2 hours ago, Bluebasser86 said:

Catfishermen stay put typically. Trout guys are mobile and not afraid to cast over your line, and come right over next to you if they see you catch a fish. Plus it's a very short season so they come out in mass when the trout are first dumped. Trout guys in boats are the apex of idiocy.

Grandma always said if ya can't say nothing nice.........gosh.....if I had a dollar for every time I saw this