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Hey guys, so I have a Lew's Mach 1 speed spool and it's been working fine in fresh and salt but all of a sudden recently the drag started slipping on me. I was catching some mackerel for bait with a sabiki and it could barely handle 3 medium sized ones but could handle them before. Anyone know why? Everything is oiled and cleaned. Also, it slips whether it has mono or braid and yes I have E-Tape on the spool to prevent line slippage. So is it the drag, reel, line, or me?

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48 minutes ago, Light88 said:

Hey guys, so I have a Lew's Mach 1 speed spool and it's been working fine in fresh and salt but all of a sudden recently the drag started slipping on me. I was catching some mackerel for bait with a sabiki and it could barely handle 3 medium sized ones but could handle them before. Anyone know why? Everything is oiled and cleaned. Also, it slips whether it has mono or braid and yes I have E-Tape on the spool to prevent line slippage. So is it the drag, reel, line, or me?

How tight do you have the drag set?  I mean are you at  lockdown and still have no drag pressure.

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On 7/6/2020 at 7:26 PM, Heartland said:

How tight do you have the drag set?  I mean are you at  lockdown and still have no drag pressure.

It's almost at max tightness and still very little drag

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1 minute ago, Light88 said:

It's almost at max tightness and still very little drag

Well that would certainly seem to indicate that you have either exceeded the life of your drag system and need to replace it or there is some type of mechanical failure.

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Just now, Heartland said:

Well that would certainly seem to indicate that you have either exceeded the life of your drag system and need to replace it or there is some type of mechanical failure.

thank you for the help :)

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Or it's assembled incorrectly. 3 mackerel weighing 1 to 1 1/2 each may be bait but fight harder then 3 2lb bass!

Tom

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2 hours ago, Light88 said:

thank you for the help :)

Your welcome, have you had it apart for maintenance recently

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I had this happen to me the other day with a fairly new reel.  The factory put too much oil in the reel, and apparently in the heat, some of it dropped down onto the drag washers.  No matter how tight I set the drag, I couldn't get more than a pound or two of resistance from it.  After loosening and resetting the drag a couple of times, and pulling on it a bit, it finally started catching and working properly again.  I just had to mechanically rub some of that oil off.  After the season's over, I'll take it apart and properly relube it so that I don't have to mess with that again.  

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5 hours ago, Bankc said:

I had this happen to me the other day with a fairly new reel.  The factory put too much oil in the reel, and apparently in the heat, some of it dropped down onto the drag washers.  No matter how tight I set the drag, I couldn't get more than a pound or two of resistance from it.  After loosening and resetting the drag a couple of times, and pulling on it a bit, it finally started catching and working properly again.  I just had to mechanically rub some of that oil off.  After the season's over, I'll take it apart and properly relube it so that I don't have to mess with that again.  

i did that oce thats why i posted the same thing. i just tightened mine down and turned the crank with my thumb on the spool.

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I have heard some of the entry level Lews reels that have the Hyperlon drag washer  (Spelling??) have this issue if they are stored with the drag tightened down. 

 

I have a couple LFS Speed Spools that have the thick blue drag washer and have had issues myself. I tried cleaning their drag washers with a spritz of brake cleaner on a rag. One helped,.. The other didn't and I ended up just ordering a new washer from somewhere.

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30 minutes ago, FrnkNsteen said:

I have heard some of the entry level Lews reels that have the Hyperlon drag washer  (Spelling??) have this issue if they are stored with the drag tightened down. 

 

Pretty sure all reels have problems if you leave the drag tightened down. I loosen ‘em up after use every time.

 

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The Mach 1 has Rulon drag - it's plastic and will deform if kept under pressure.

 

https://www.lews.com/en/shop/reels/mh1ac

 

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49 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

The Mach 1 has Rulon drag - it's plastic and will deform if kept under pressure.

 

https://www.lews.com/en/shop/reels/mh1ac

 

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That's the one I was trying to think of... Don't know where "Hyperlon" came from... LOL!!

 

1 hour ago, NavyToad said:

Pretty sure all reels have problems if you leave the drag tightened down. I loosen ‘em up after use every time.

 

That may be true,..but I have not had any issues with any other drags, eapecially the ones with carbon washers.

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15 minutes ago, FrnkNsteen said:

That may be true,..but I have not had any issues with any other drags, eapecially the ones with carbon washers.

Oil-felt will compress and hold if left under pressure too long...reason I replace my oil-felt drag washers with carbon-fiber.

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1 hour ago, ska4fun said:

Concerning drag problems on Doyo reels I only saw them with cardboard-like drag discs, similar to what shimano calls dartanium. Very cheap material. 

If Shimano has a name for it, I guess they must be using it. So maybe the problem isn’t confined to Doyo reels unless somehow Shimano can use this cardboard-like material and magically not encounter problems with their drags. I’ve never had a problem with the drag on any of my Lews reels.

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On 9/27/2022 at 7:03 PM, NavyToad said:

If Shimano has a name for it, I guess they must be using it. So maybe the problem isn’t confined to Doyo reels unless somehow Shimano can use this cardboard-like material and magically not encounter problems with their drags. I’ve never had a problem with the drag on any of my Lews reels.

The cardboard-like material is found on doyo's cheapest reels, the Abu Garcia Black Max and it's derivatives. Have you ever opened your reels?

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4 hours ago, ska4fun said:

The cardboard-like material is found on doyo's cheapest reels, the Abu Garcia Black Max and it's derivatives. Have you ever opened your reels?

You originally said Doyo reels. No mention about which line of Doyo reels.

 

Yes - carbon fiber.

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4 hours ago, NavyToad said:

You originally said Doyo reels. No mention about which line of Doyo reels.

 

Yes - carbon fiber.

But infer it's usage on the brand budget line isn't in now way or form, an exercise of imagination. 

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On 9/27/2022 at 3:50 PM, ska4fun said:

Concerning drag problems on Doyo reels I only saw them with cardboard-like drag discs, similar to what shimano calls dartanium. Very cheap material. 

OK. I’m not a mental gymnast and I thought you meant that Doyo reels have drag problems. My bad.

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I set my drags and forget 'em. They stay tightened down even while in winter storage for a couple months. The only issue I've ever had was a Super Duty that was over lubed from the factory. I degreased the drag stack and it's been fine ever since. If you're having an issue with a modern drag slipping, it's probably a lube or wave washer issue.

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22 minutes ago, T-Billy said:

I set my drags and forget 'em. They stay tightened down even while in winter storage for a couple months. The only issue I've ever had was a Super Duty that was over lubed from the factory. I degreased the drag stack and it's been fine ever since. If you're having an issue with a modern drag slipping, it's probably a lube or wave washer issue.

Totally agree and I have Lew's reels with rulon drags.

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Install some carbontex drag washers and be done.   Quick google search will point you  where to purchase them . I have two of those mach 1 reels/rod setup for hand out for friends to use and both the drag is pretty weak. 

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