does the shakey head rig require a shakey head jig? Or can I just use a standard jig and rig it shakey head style? I am a bit confused here. I hear so much about the shakey head online but have yet to try it because of this. I understand how its rigged, just not sure if I can use one of my standard jigs already or if I need to go out and buy some "shakey heads" ? 

 

To me anyways, the shakey head looks like someone tried to T-rig a worm with a jig instead of a EWG hook, as it seems thats basically how you rig it.

You can use a regular jig head tonrig 'shakey' style.  The jig heads that are designed for shakey rigging will have keepers (often screw locks cast into the jig head) that will keep in it place better.  I would try some good made-for-shakey jigs first.  They aren't that expensive, and I think you'll find them more satisfactory.

9 minutes ago, Jonas Staggs said:

does the shakey head rig require a shakey head jig? Or can I just use a standard jig and rig it shakey head style? I am a bit confused here. I hear so much about the shakey head online but have yet to try it because of this. I understand how its rigged, just not sure if I can use one of my standard jigs already or if I need to go out and buy some "shakey heads" ? 

 

To me anyways, the shakey head looks like someone tried to T-rig a worm with a jig instead of a EWG hook, as it seems thats basically how you rig it.

I don’t think the shaky head has anything to do with how you rig it- it’s more about how the jighead stands up on the bottom.  Shaky heads can have a screw lock or even a traditional Texas rig hook on them.

 

Actually, the very first shaky head jig was a ballhead jig.

The concept being, that a spherical jighead offers no directional resistance,

and permits freedom of movement in every direction.

In any case, stand-up jigs quickly entered the scene.

In my opinion, "shaky" describes the delivery, better than it describes the jighead. 

 

Early on, floating worms were popular, but just as ballhead jigs gave way

to stand-up jigs, floating worms gave way to neutrally buoyant worms.

The reason again "freedom-of-motion", where flotation may cause an upward bias.

 

Roger

I use the VMC Rugby Head which is an EWG hook and head that's not quite football not quite round. Stands up good and works good for me. I think line tie angel has something to do with how it moves when shaken. 

I think you can thread a little ball head jig into the nose of  great many plastics and catch a fish. Didn't the "Jig worm" come before the "shaky head"?

 

The shaky head jigs tent to stand...some more than others and are snag resistant but I like to carry an assortment of plain round lead head jigs.

A shaky head jig has keepers which keep the bait in place a lot better and you can rig them weedless. With a standard jig head you would probably have an exposed hook which would get you hung up a lot more.

I think a lot of the shaky head set up is dependent on a number of factors. How fast are you fishing vs. dead sticking, how much do you like your worm to stand up - mostly flat, 45 degree angle or straight up? 
 

A ball head paired with a denser worm will swim flatter, maybe stand up momentarily when stopped then go back down.  Other more buoyant worms you can fish on a stand up jig head, slow or dead stick with the tail 45 degree to straight up.  
 

IMO best to have some of both until you figure out the bite any given day... 

 

1 hour ago, MGF said:

I think you can thread a little ball head jig into the nose of  great many plastics and catch a fish. Didn't the "Jig worm" come before the "shaky head"?

 

The shaky head jigs tent to stand...some more than others and are snag resistant but I like to carry an assortment of plain round lead head jigs.

 

First time I heard shaky head I thought, "Huh? Isn't that just a jigworm?"  It took awhile to realize that "shakyhead" and "jigworm" both refer more to the presentation, rather than the bait or rig.  I've always felt we can also put slider-worms and ned rigs in that same family tree. 

https://www.megastrike.com/shakey

https://siebertoutdoors.com/products/ols/products/zenith-shaky-head

*There are a lot of good shaky heads on the market - as an example by reading on TW you can find a variety of different styles of shaky head designs as well as user comments to help educate you as to what is available .

Shakey head is a technique not a jig head.  Get a couple heads that will do what u think is best 

On 1/16/2021 at 4:19 AM, roadwarrior said:

https://www.megastrike.com/shakey

 

On 1/16/2021 at 11:30 AM, whitwolf said:

https://siebertoutdoors.com/products/ols/products/zenith-shaky-head

I have used both. I ended up giving the megastrikes away, because sieberts just plain worked better for me.

1 hour ago, KDW96 said:

 

I have used both. I ended up giving the megastrikes away, because sieberts just plain worked better for me.

I just looked at them and I really like the head design on the Siebert ones. If they made that head on a swing head that would be killer!

ALSO,

A jighead that is title as a "shakey head" usually has a longer shank on the hook than a a standard jighead of the same weight size.

thus, a shakey head really doesn't make a good jighead, and a jighead doesn't really make a good shakey head

BUT! I do use a shakey head for longer 5" grubs or swimbaits at times, because of the longer shank.

Ok guys so I have another question. I see some shaky heads with a very flat head, obviously they will stand up due to the way they are built. 

I then see others that are a round jig head, with a very small flat portion. I don't picture these baits standing up cause the flat part is so small.

I had the same problem the other day with zman ned rig the other day. It would not stand up, so I switched it out for a eagle claw stand up jig, which is rounded and it stood up no problem. 

 

I was browsing basspro yesterday, all the shaky heads have big hooks like 3/0 or 4/0. I couldn't find anything smaller? I have a gift card for them so if there's any brand or style you guys prefer that they carry that would be appreciated 

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Jonas Staggs said:

Ok guys so I have another question. I see some shaky heads with a very flat head, obviously they will stand up due to the way they are built. 

I then see others that are a round jig head, with a very small flat portion. I don't picture these baits standing up cause the flat part is so small.

I had the same problem the other day with zman ned rig the other day. It would not stand up, so I switched it out for a eagle claw stand up jig, which is rounded and it stood up no problem. 

 

 

So where is the question??? Did I miss it   

"Shakey Heads" have departed a long way from the original technique, which was a basically a jig worm, the only difference being the longer shank and heavier gauge hook for weedless rigging.  It allowed you to shake just the head of the worm, hence the name.  Like almost all other jig based finesse techniques, it turned into stand up rigging.  *See also Ned rig, Sliders, Spot Removers, etc.  I don't know what, but the stand up jig has never been given a cool name, and always becomes a trait of another rig.

2 minutes ago, Team9nine said:

 

So where is the question??? Did I miss it   

 

 

Lol, I'm doing this all from my phone. Do others have problems with the jigs not standing up 

2 minutes ago, Jonas Staggs said:

Do others have problems with the jigs not standing up 

Not if you use a floating worm and a stand up jig.  I do have a problem with a shakey head falling over, but they're not meant to stand up.  

Well, watch Bobby's video. His shaky heads stand up.

 

https://www.megastrike.com/shakey

Pretty simple if the trailer floats it will stand up, otherwise it will flop. I will use them either way. Its a confidence bait for me.

Well, watch Bobby's video. His shaky heads stand up.

 

https://www.megastrike.com/shakey

 

Guess I can't believe my lying eyes...

Not trying to argue, but the worm in that video looks like a Strike King 3X which is a floating worm. A conventional plastic worm that long wouldn't stand straight up 4" behind the hook, even if the jig stayed upright. Don't get me wrong, I love Bobby's shakey jig and use them all the time.