46 minutes ago, Cgolf said:

 

Not everyone in WI fishes nightcrawlers for walleye. Lots of trolling and the owner of the cabins we stay at, N WI, fills his freezer with lipless baits, zero livebait. I used to fish crawlers for walleyes, but it was inefficient and made a mess in the boat.

I actually use the gulp nightcrawlers now instead because the real ones were messy and slimy, as you stated.  Plus the real ones kept getting pecked by panfish.  I primarily used them in midsummer trolling a spinner rig so a gulp one worked just as well since I was going for a quick reaction strike anyways.

I don’t believe I’ve ever felt like I’ve killed a fish I’ve caught on a ned rig. And I’m a big fan and user of them.

If you go to his Youtube page, you will find that this video was posted in Dec 2019.  In Jan 2020, he posts one about the Ned rig and what it is supposed to imitate and says he uses it all the time. Hmmmm

12 minutes ago, Obi_Wan said:

If you go to his Youtube page, you will find that this video was posted in Dec 2019.  In Jan 2020, he posts one about the Ned rig and what it is supposed to imitate and says he uses it all the time. Hmmmm

He says in the first video he uses it and wasn't going to stop. The video is intended to get people to try to make a better effort at not gut hooking fish. Obviously he has seen enough of them on neds to be concerned. Maybe guys here haven't because maybe the guys here are more careful . That doesn't mean he should be ridiculed and called a has been. He is forming his opinion on his personal observations.

On 8/7/2022 at 5:06 PM, Cbump said:

You were definitely not setting the hook instantly. 

Instantly as in as soon as I noticed the line jump or right after I felt a thump. It's almost humanly impossible to set the hook instantly instantly Lol.

TLDW

 

I fish a Ned A LOT and I’ve never had to cut my line and leave the bait in its mouth.  

i took a bigger bass once and it had 5 senkos in various stages of rot packed in its mouth.  full irony, that i caught the greedy fish on yet another senko.  my friend and i pulled them out, one was halfway down the hole.  we let it go as fast as we could.

 

i never put a used plastic in the water after seeing that.  i stuff them anywhere i can for disposal later.  

On 8/9/2022 at 6:12 PM, dodgeguy said:

He says in the first video he uses it and wasn't going to stop. The video is intended to get people to try to make a better effort at not gut hooking fish. Obviously he has seen enough of them on neds to be concerned. Maybe guys here haven't because maybe the guys here are more careful . That doesn't mean he should be ridiculed and called a has been. He is forming his opinion on his personal observations.

I never called him a has been.  His accomplishments are well documented, but in the end its his opinion and I have mine.  If I can be ridiculed for mine, he can be ridiculed for his.

5 hours ago, Darth-Baiter said:

i took a bigger bass once and it had 5 senkos in various stages of rot packed in its mouth.  full irony, that i caught the greedy fish on yet another senko.  my friend and i pulled them out, one was halfway down the hole.  we let it go as fast as we could.

 

i never put a used plastic in the water after seeing that.  i stuff them anywhere i can for disposal later.  

I think this happens after the senko falls off the hook when the fish jumps and sinks down to the bottom. A ned being like a tiny senko, they are prone to swallow it. At least the ned doesn’t fly off the hook nearly as often, but they snag and get left on the bottom with the hook in them more than anything 

15 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said:

I think this happens after the senko falls off the hook when the fish jumps and sinks down to the bottom. A ned being like a tiny senko, they are prone to swallow it. At least the ned doesn’t fly off the hook nearly as often, but they snag and get left on the bottom with the hook in them more than anything 

ahhh..you're right!!

On 8/6/2022 at 3:45 PM, dodgeguy said:

 

Watch the entire video before you post. I think he has some very valid points. We must all do what we can to help prevent this. We must all make a extreme effort to do the least damage possible.

 

 

 

 

I've never had a bass swallow a ned rig, but then again I'm quick at setting the hook when something doesn't feel right. I feel like the ned rig isn't made for everyone though. Some people wait extremely long to set the hook, the same problem can be said with senkos. 

It can happen with any bait that gets bit on the drop a lot. My wife fishes the thing year round and maybe we will get 1 or 2 with it past their crushers per year. I'd rather it never happened but it's going to sooner or later.

 Personally, I've killed more fish on a yellow magic than a ned .