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I want to buy a few more lures before the season starts. I was looking into the Evergreen SB. I also gave my jackhammer away to a log over the fall and need one of those too.

 

Does anyone know if the 77 size Showerblows works as well as the others?

 

Also, is the ghost baby gill jackhammer color good for a perch imitation and does it produce like Brett's Bluegill?

 

Any color recommendations are appreciated except for white and bone. I refuse to buy something without at least a simple paint job if I pay over 10 bucks for it.

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Bhite Delight and Sprayed Grass are good Jackhammer colors. 

 

And you're missing out if you don't buy bone/white colored baits just because they don't look as pretty as other colors. If the fish like it, does it matter? 

 

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43 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said:

Bhite Delight and Sprayed Grass are good Jackhammer colors. 

 

And you're missing out if you don't buy bone/white colored baits just because they don't look as pretty as other colors. If the fish like it, does it matter? 

 

I know your right, but with a bone spook and bone plopper and bone yellow magic (got that as a gift) I am very tired of it. I also don't have shad in my lakes, so a bluegill or perch color bait would do better.

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11 minutes ago, Tony Christian said:

bluegill

The jackhammer is available in a bluegill color in case you're interested in that.  Yes, its the Brett's Bluegill version you mentioned in your OP.  I put a Strike King Rage tail menace on it.

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The 777 shower blow works very well.  I love the bone/white with pink one.

 

Spot remover in the jackhammer OR if you can find the jdm model, the make a sick June bug one.

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1 hour ago, Tony Christian said:

I also don't have shad in my lakes, so a bluegill or perch color bait would do better.

I don't have shad either, but white/bone chatterbaits, spinnerbaits, swim jigs, cranks etc still work great. Especially in dingy water. I also use black/blue, green pumpkin, bluegill colors as well, but sometimes the white baits work better.

 

For topwater, bone is probably my best producer. Followed by black. 

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2 hours ago, NorthernBasser said:

I don't have shad either, but white/bone chatterbaits, spinnerbaits, swim jigs, cranks etc still work great. Especially in dingy water. I also use black/blue, green pumpkin, bluegill colors as well, but sometimes the white baits work better.

 

For topwater, bone is probably my best producer. Followed by black. 

Ok, I guess it isn't up to me what the bass want, but with the baby bass and natural gill showerblows patterns, it's tough to pick bone. I'll do it for the bass though.

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4 hours ago, Tony Christian said:

I also don't have shad in my lakes, so a bluegill or perch color bait would do better.

That's not how it works...

5 hours ago, NorthernBasser said:

And you're missing out if you don't buy bone/white colored baits just because they don't look as pretty as other colors. If the fish like it, does it matter? 

 

I agree about white or bone-colored baits. The OP could also buy the Skeleton Chartreuse Shower Blow. Oh, but that has no paint just a clear bottom but another good color.  ?

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

one of which I think is the BamaBug.    It's the best bluegill imatator in the lineup

Do your bluegills have purple on them down there?

 

Aint no purple on them here. Green with a flash of orange on the gill plate, thus the color pattern “bluegill.”

 

Maybe bama bug is a southern term for bluegill.

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13 hours ago, Deleted account said:

That's not how it works...

I always struggled to catch them on shad and shiner patterns, and have had my best success on perch. I always thought "match the hatch" and bone was a dingy water shad imitator, but maybe I'm wrong. I have had some success on bone, but my perch Iovino Splash It does better than my bone yellow magic. I feel like cool realistic paint jobs add beauty and value to a product, also. But if it costs me bass, I guess I can go with bone.

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55 minutes ago, Tony Christian said:

I always struggled to catch them on shad and shiner patterns, and have had my best success on perch. I always thought "match the hatch" and bone was a dingy water shad imitator, but maybe I'm wrong. I have had some success on bone, but my perch Iovino Splash It does better than my bone yellow magic. I feel like cool realistic paint jobs add beauty and value to a product, also. But if it costs me bass, I guess I can go with bone.

No, I'm not suggesting that one is better than the other, just that color it seldom makes a difference, but if one lure is working better for you where you fish then by all means run with that, I doubt the color is the reason though, and if fishing "pretty" lures is your thing, then by all means. The Iovino and Yellow Magic poppers are both great lures, but there are some subtle but consequential differences. Fish the two in the same color (with the same tail feathers) and then you will be closer to discovering why it's so. The YM fishes a tad "bigger" so I prefer it over the Splash-It when there is a ripple, but in really calm conditions I give the Iovino the nod, although lately I've been fishing the boss pop out of the package (which is rare for me) and it's as good as it gets. Did I mention I have a popper problem?...

20 minutes ago, Tony Christian said:

I am just very tired of every lure in my topwater box being bone. Would Skeleton Chartreuse be a good dirty water color?

 

 

It's actually a clear body with a chartreuse top that I usually use in clearer water but I also believe that the movement and commotion on the surface are what attract the fish. I think they are more important than color. I do believe Skeleton Chartreuse will work in dirty water but I cannot recall using it in very dirty water. 

 

The thing I like about the Skeleton Chartreuse is that you can usually see the chartreuse top and know where the lure is and what is happening to it. I have had other lures I was fishing on top that just disappeared or I thought they disappeared because I lost sight of them. Bright colors on top help me keep track of lures in the thick stuff. 

 

 

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Just now, Deleted account said:

No, I'm not suggesting that one is better than the other, just that color it seldom makes a difference, but if one lure is working better for you where you fish then by all means run with that, I doubt the color is the reason though, and if fishing "pretty" lures is your thing, then by all means. The Iovino and Yellow Magic poppers are both great lures, but there are some subtle but consequential differences. Fish the two in the same color (with the same tail feathers) and then you will be closer to discovering why it's so. The YM fishes a tad "bigger" so I prefer it over the Splash-It when there is a ripple, but in really calm conditions I give the Iovino the nod, although lately I've been fishing the boss pop out of the package (which is rare for me) and it's as good as it gets. Did I mention I have a popper problem?...

Thank you for the popper information, I was wondering when to fish which one but read the Splash It was just a blemished yellow magic repainted. I am also getting three free Rico blems from my TW order and want to see how those do. I don't want to go too far off topic, but do you know when to fish the Rico over the other two?

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1 minute ago, Tony Christian said:

Thank you for the popper information, I was wondering when to fish which one but read the Splash It was just a blemished yellow magic repainted. I am also getting three free Rico blems from my TW order and want to see how those do. I don't want to go too far off topic, but do you know when to fish the Rico over the other two?

There is very little difference between a Rico and a Splash-It. 

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1 hour ago, Tony Christian said:

I always struggled to catch them on shad and shiner patterns, and have had my best success on perch. I always thought "match the hatch" and bone was a dingy water shad imitator, but maybe I'm wrong. I have had some success on bone, but my perch Iovino Splash It does better than my bone yellow magic. I feel like cool realistic paint jobs add beauty and value to a product, also. But if it costs me bass, I guess I can go with bone.

TBH, if I'm fishing really clear water, I throw natural colors way more than white/bone baits. Except for topwater. That's a different story. But if the water is stained/dirty, white baits work great, even if you don't have shad. 

41 minutes ago, Tony Christian said:

I am just very tired of every lure in my topwater box being bone. Would Skeleton Chartreuse be a good dirty water color?

 

How many black topwater baits do you own? Those are must-haves IMO. Especially for stained water and overcast skies.

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42 minutes ago, Dogface said:

It's actually a clear body with a chartreuse top that I usually use in clearer water but I also believe that the movement and commotion on the surface are what attract the fish. I think they are more important than color. I do believe Skeleton Chartreuse will work in dirty water but I cannot recall using it in very dirty water. 

 

I agree. It's a great color in all water. I do very well with it in dirty water as well. As you mentioned, the body is translucent. However, the very bottom is solid white with very fine glitter. Not sure if it shows well in the pics.

 

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1 hour ago, Tony Christian said:

I am just very tired of every lure in my topwater box being bone. Would Skeleton Chartreuse be a good dirty water color?

What do you think of the ghost baby gill color? It looks like it could be a good bluegill and perch clear water color.

I think it looks great.   I just have dark bluegills down here.   The lighter color would be better I'd imagine for you.

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1 hour ago, NorthernBasser said:

TBH, if I'm fishing really clear water, I throw natural colors way more than white/bone baits. Except for topwater. That's a different story. But if the water is stained/dirty, white baits work great, even if you don't have shad. 

How many black topwater baits do you own? Those are must-haves IMO. Especially for stained water and overcast skies.

I really don't have any dirty water. There is a very clear reservoir in my backyard that sees no pressure because it is owned by Veolia. I have one loon plopper 110 that doesn't see much time on the water but I will try it.

Bruised Green Pumpkin is another great color in the Jackhammer. It is Black, Blue and Green Pumpkin mixed. I like the painted blade, though it wears off after some use. This color and a Green Pumpkin like trailer is a daily driver for me in heavy gilled waters.

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So the consensus for the Showerblows seems to be bone or Skeleton Chartreuse.

 

For the jackhammer I will probably stick with Brett's Bluegill but will look at the other colors suggested.

 

Have natural gill or baby bass produced for you on the SB, I may buy one SB for clear and one for dirty water.

 

Also, do I need to replace the hooks with Gammys or are they fine.

Mine are original and sharp. 

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1 hour ago, Tony Christian said:

So the consensus for the Showerblows seems to be bone or Skeleton Chartreuse.

 

For the jackhammer I will probably stick with Brett's Bluegill but will look at the other colors suggested.

 

Have natural gill or baby bass produced for you on the SB, I may buy one SB for clear and one for dirty water.

 

Also, do I need to replace the hooks with Gammys or are they fine.

As far as Chatterbaits go, don't sleep on the Mini Max. Absolutely love them. This is with a Fluke (the 4") trailer. Nothing crazy but pairs nicely. 

 

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1 hour ago, Tony Christian said:

So the consensus for the Showerblows seems to be bone or Skeleton Chartreuse.

 

For the jackhammer I will probably stick with Brett's Bluegill but will look at the other colors suggested.

 

Have natural gill or baby bass produced for you on the SB, I may buy one SB for clear and one for dirty water.

 

Also, do I need to replace the hooks with Gammys or are they fine.

 

I'm also fishing the jersey lakes and you're right that we don't get a lot of stained water.  It takes a lot of of rain to dirty up most of the places here up north.  My usuals in vibrating jigs are natural colors.  Start with green pumpkin and add something.  Sometimes its a flash of orange, blue, or purple.  I carry green pumpkin over white and over chartreuse (dirty shad and mud shad in Siebert's tremors).  If its a lake with shad or herring (we do have both here) then I like the mud shad variant.  That said, if they are going to eat a green pumpkin tremor, then they will eat a mud shad tremor.  The specific accent isn't the be all end all since all of the lakes around have bluegills, red ears, pumpkinseeds, and sunfish and all of them are always on the menu.  If I'm fishing Hopatcong or the open waters where the fish are keying on herring then I'll swap to a white type pattern (green back shad was my top 2021 producer).  Mostly I stick to green pumpkin variants.  Also, before I paid $15 for a jackhammer I'd pick up three Tremors from Siebert.

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22 minutes ago, NorthernBasser said:

As far as Chatterbaits go, don't sleep on the Mini Max. Absolutely love them. This is with a Fluke (the 4") trailer. Nothing crazy but pairs nicely. 

 

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Sounds cool, do I need to do a snap upgrade?

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