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Bill Beckum caught his bass using live crawdads fishing a well known area. I knew of him but I wasn’t in his circle of buddies.

Danny Kadota and Bob Crupi were buddies and generally avoided both of them. Danny’s Tin boat fleet killed a lot of giant bass back in the late 80’s early 90’s camped out on Dry creek  Elisabeth canyon point area. Stringers of big bass belly up looked like volley balls floating next to the boats.

This time period with $1,000,000 reward for a new world record bass putting tremendous fishing pressure on both Casitas and Castaic.

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8 minutes ago, WRB said:

Bill Beckum caught his bass using live crawdads fishing a well known area. I knew of him but I wasn’t in his circle of buddies.

Danny Kadota and Bob Crupi were buddies and generally avoided both of them. Danny’s Tin boat fleet killed a lot of giant bass back in the late 80’s early 90’s camped out on Dry creek  Elisabeth canyon point area. Stringers of big bass belly up looked like volley balls floating next to the boats.

This time period with $1,000,000 reward for a new world record bass putting tremendous fishing pressure on both Casitas and Castaic.

Tom

So your 19.3 is among the top 25 biggest Bass ever landed I would assume.   That's pretty dang awesome even if you didn't get the WR.  

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6 minutes ago, WRB said:

Bill Beckum caught his bass using live crawdads fishing a well known area. I knew of him but I wasn’t in his circle of buddies.

Danny Kadota and Bob Crupi were buddies and generally avoided both of them. Danny’s Tin boat fleet killed a lot of giant bass back in the late 80’s early 90’s camped out on Dry creek  Elisabeth canyon point area. Stringers of big bass belly up looked like volley balls floating next to the boats.

This time period with $1,000,000 reward for a new world record bass putting tremendous fishing pressure on both Casitas and Castaic.

Tom

Always good to get both sides of the story, do you think we will see another big fish come out of Casitas and Castaic, or do you think the drought, lack of forage, and fishing pressure has hurt the fishery

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1 hour ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

So your 19.3 is among the top 25 biggest Bass ever landed I would assume.   That's pretty dang awesome even if you didn't get the WR.  

No, back then you had to keep the bass to let DFG measure and weigh the bass, couldn’t release them alive or transport the bass to authenticate a legal catch, no weights added and correct species. It didn’t occur to me to kill the bass and the top 25 list happen years later.

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1 hour ago, PressuredFishing said:

Always good to get both sides of the story, do you think we will see another big fish come out of Casitas and Castaic, or do you think the drought, lack of forage, and fishing pressure has hurt the fishery

Castiac now is populated by Stripe Bass decimating the food chain plus trout plants are very random. .

   Casitas isn’t getting much water from the Ventura River, only some run off as the local water board will not repair Robles diversion dam. Without a volume of water from the river the run off local water shed maybe toxic from fire retardants, doesn’t help the ecosystem. If crawdads and trout are restocked to provide more prey with high protein I can’t see Casitas coming back in the near future, it’s possible.

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38 minutes ago, WRB said:

plus trout plants are very random. .

Excellent Info thanks! and absolutely agree, it's been 3 years of bacteria outbrakes and I cannot believe how little they have stocked, I don't want to say incompetence because I don't know how hard it is to run a fishery, but visiting a dfg hatchery and a private one like Mt Lassen and Jess ranch it just seems the private ones are so much cleaner, healthier from better pellet diets, clean fresh mountain stream water, excellent filtration systems, and much more space for the fish to be less crowded than dfg. I'm not an expert but maybe that helps breed strong healthy fish that don't  succumb to disease as easily. Maybe you know more backstop behind the situation

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The problems started when hatchery raised sterile triploid Rainbow trout was stopped by court order to study the impact on native Steelhead populations. The DFG had to spend their budget studying all the waterways that had a history of Steelhead populations. This effort lasted about 8 years reducing budgets and raising hatchery trout put on hold or reduced. 

The Whitney hatchery had a breakout of whirling disease shutting it down a few years. Today Fillmore and Whitney are back in operation but with reduce production do to cutbacks in funding.

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1 hour ago, N Florida Mike said:

Tom, Wasn’t Dottie the largest bass ever weighed , or were there others you know about in that size or bigger?

Dottie was 25.1 lbs officially weighed by a biologist, biggest LMB ever caught!

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Dottie was 25.1 lbs officially weighed by a biologist, biggest LMB ever caught!

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Technically snagged, or she would be the WR correct?

 

IIrc she was caught on the outside of mouth on the bed.    

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1 minute ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

Technically snagged, or she would be the WR correct?

 

IIrc she was caught on the outside of mouth on the bed.    

She was snagged on top of her head with white jig on a bed.

Witnesses could clearly see the white jig when she was brought into the boat and reported the infraction while Dottie was being weighed. Dottie was released as a result and not submitted for record status.

It’s shame.

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1 minute ago, WRB said:

She was snagged on top of her head with white jig on a bed.

Witnesses could clearly see the white jig when she was brought into the boat and reported the infraction while Dottie was being weighed. Dottie was released as a result and not submitted for record status.

It’s shame.

Tom

 

Yeah it's a real shame because Dottie herself deserved to be remembered by history as the WR fish.  

 

She was found dead a few years after I've read, wonder if she went downhill those last two years, or if she managed to gain a pound or two.    I've only seen her bloated dead pic.     

 

I still think Cuba might have a 25lb fish swimming around eating 18" Freshwater Eels.    Now that it's opening back up to Americans, maybe we'll see what the rumors were about all these decades.  

 

 

This is the article I read on her....

 

World Record Chasers | The Story of “Dottie” the 25 pound Largemouth Bass – Bass Fishing Facts

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On 1/16/2023 at 12:42 PM, WRB said:

The problems started when hatchery raised sterile triploid Rainbow trout was stopped by court order to study the impact on native Steelhead populations. The DFG had to spend their budget studying all the waterways that had a history of Steelhead populations. This effort lasted about 8 years reducing budgets and raising hatchery trout put on hold or reduced. 

The Whitney hatchery had a breakout of whirling disease shutting it down a few years. Today Fillmore and Whitney are back in operation but with reduce production do to cutbacks in funding.

 Tom 

 

I feel like the DFG used to be into the bass fisheries in a positive way. A much more positive way than is presently the case. It seems to me like they are much more concerned with finding and protecting a non-native mythical newt with three reproductive appendages.

 

The vision starts at the top food chain, and our overlords have crosses in their eyes.

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1 hour ago, WRB said:

Dottie was 25.1 lbs officially weighed by a biologist, biggest LMB ever caught!

Tom

 The true World Record.

 

https://www.watergremlin.com/biggest-bass-ever-caught-and-released-twice/

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2 hours ago, AlabamaSpothunter said:

She was found dead a few years after I've read, wonder if she went downhill those last two years, or if she managed to gain a pound or two.    I've only seen her bloated dead pic.     

 

RIP dottie.

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