Super User A-Jay Posted March 25 Super User Share Posted March 25 1 hour ago, bishoptf said: they had sold the 1875 they had Just thought I would update with my latest information... Interesting ~ That rig is gone while others remain unsold. Perhaps there's your 'answer'. BTW - I'd try to make the 'shopping' experience fun. A lot of Bassheads would Love to be in your shoes right about now. Continued Good Luck on your quest for the right rig. Thanks for the update. A-Jay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishoptf Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 20 minutes ago, A-Jay said: Interesting ~ That rig is gone while others remain unsold. Perhaps there's your 'answer'. BTW - I'd try to make the 'shopping' experience fun. A lot of Bassheads would Love to be in your shoes right about now. Continued Good Luck on your quest for the right rig. Thanks for the update. A-Jay Yeah, they have 2 sites and they moved the other 1875 to there Branson location which is near Table Rock. I like the boat but they will not budge on price and getting better deals on the glass counterparts. Not sure if its true or not but he says that his dealership sells the most pro v bass in the states. Still keeping my options open, pros and cons to everything including this. So just trying to weigh all my options, the fact that the other ones come with active target electronics to boot makes things interesting. The other thing I noticed and not sure how they do it but all the trailers they use are Heritage trailers, not even sure that is an option from Lund but that is the trailer that they are using for all the bigger boats. He said it was an upgraded and much nicer trailer but not sure how accurate that is etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User A-Jay Posted March 25 Super User Share Posted March 25 30 minutes ago, bishoptf said: The other thing I noticed and not sure how they do it but all the trailers they use are Heritage trailers, not even sure that is an option from Lund but that is the trailer that they are using for all the bigger boats. He said it was an upgraded and much nicer trailer but not sure how accurate that is etc. I purchased my rig in 2016. I ordered it. Boat, Motor & trailer. Along with EVERYTHING ELSE. Talons, electronics, Trolling motor etc. Just the way I wanted it. My dealer is a LUND, Humminbird & Minn Kota dealer so they installed it all. Before I picked it up (but I was invited to the install, which I took them up on). They allowed me quite a bit of flexibility to get what I wanted right down to the Batteries, Chargers, the Prop and even had custom LED lights installed in the trailer. IMO, It's The best way to start & end up with EXACTLY what you what. Need to know what that is in advance, and I did. This is NOT the cheapest way to go, but in the long run It's the best. Looking for 'the exactly right rig', set up the way you want & need is tough. Going from lot to lot. Like car shopping. BTW, I order my trucks the same way. You'll need TIME and be willing to wait, because they will need to build & outfit your rig. But is there anything better than a turn key Bass Boat ? Not in my world. Just something to think about. Finally, I got A Metric Ton of great help & advice from the very experienced & generous BR forum members here. And I could have not thanked them enough. They saved me a bunch of Money & Time. Here's the thread I did on the whole experience. https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/175465-got-a-new-boat-~/ https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/162012-2016-lund-pro-v-bass/?do=findComment&comment=1861087 Hope this helps. A-Jay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishoptf Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 20 minutes ago, A-Jay said: I purchased my rig in 2016. I ordered it. Boat, Motor & trailer. Along with EVERYTHING ELSE. Talons, electronics, Trolling motor etc. Just the way I wanted it. My dealer is a LUND, Humminbird & Minn Kota dealer so they installed it all. Before I picked it up (but I was invited to the install, which I took them up on). They allowed me quite a bit of flexibility to get what I wanted right down to the Batteries, Chargers, the Prop and even had custom LED lights installed in the trailer. IMO, It's The best way to start & end up with EXACTLY what you what. Need to know what that is in advance, and I did. This is NOT the cheapest way to go, but in the long run It's the best. Looking for 'the exactly right rig', set up the way you want & need is tough. Going from lot to lot. Like car shopping. BTW, I order my trucks the same way. You'll need TIME and be willing to wait, because they will need to build & outfit your rig. But is there anything better than a turn key Bass Boat ? Not in my world. Just something to think about. Finally, I got A Metric Ton of great help & advice from the very experienced & generous BR forum members here. And I could have not thanked them enough. They saved me a bunch of Money & Time. Here's the thread I did on the whole experience. https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/175465-got-a-new-boat-~/ https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/162012-2016-lund-pro-v-bass/?do=findComment&comment=1861087 Hope this helps. A-Jay Understand I just wasn't aware or familiar with Heritage trailers since I thought Lund used Shorelander. Honestly I tend to do things myself for the most part since not always had the best luck with installers, sounds like you have some pretty good ones but I've not always had that experience in the past. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User WRB Posted March 25 Super User Share Posted March 25 Let’s put your budget at $50 to give you upgrade budget. IMO there isn’t any reason to buy locally if the boat you choose has a dealer in your area. Cost to ship cross country or you tow it home from out of state. Lots of bass boats are available do to the economy today. Anglers Marine in Anaheim CA for example has a good inventory of excellent condition used bass boats in your price range. Rick Grover Owner 714/666.2628 is worth a phone call. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born 2 fish Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Trailers can have issues regardless of brand but can be fixed pretty easy. The most important thing is that whatever brand boat you decide to buy make sure you have support after the sale. Weather it be trough the dealership you bought it from or the manufacturer of the boat. That’s very important to me. Also look into the transferable hull warranty’s on the boat brands your considering and do some research on how those different companies handled prior clames. If you plan on keeping the boat for a while this is all worth it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FishTax Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I'm enjoying reading this. Thanks for the updates, I'm currently just in a kayak but enjoying reading a learning about your experience. Hopefully one day I'll be on a similar shopping spree 😎 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Bird Posted March 26 Super User Share Posted March 26 Yes, I also enjoy reading about the paths members take in pursuing a bass boat...... following. Hope you find the perfect boat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Catt Posted March 26 Super User Share Posted March 26 Handling rough water: First is the driver & then its combination of length, width, & horse power. The hulls ability to stay on plan at lower speeds is key. So is how the hull reacts to throttle inputs. Fibrglass: Bass Cat Aluminum: Xpress Hyper-Lift 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishoptf Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 Can someone tell me looking at some boats that are setup for 36v ultrex, can you run them with 24v vs 36v? I know you lose the ft lbs like 112 to 80 but just curious with the ultrex can you do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born 2 fish Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, bishoptf said: Can someone tell me looking at some boats that are setup for 36v ultrex, can you run them with 24v vs 36v? I know you lose the ft lbs like 112 to 80 but just curious with the ultrex can you do that? No you cant a 36 volt ultrex needs 36 volts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishoptf Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 Eh nevermind I think I found my answer, looks like you would have to swap some stuff out so if I am looking at a boat setup for 36v then looks like I am going to have to go with it... Actually looking at the MinnKota website looks like the newest version will do either - https://minnkota.johnsonoutdoors.com/us/shop/freshwater-trolling-motors/ultrex QUEST Series: These 24/36V dual-voltage brushless motors have been completely re-imagined from the ground up with updates to mounts, propellers, lift assist systems, drive motors and software – taking the world’s greatest trolling motors and redesigning them to outperform everything else on the water for years to come.\ Will shoot them an email but looks like the newer ones will do either/or. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishoptf Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 Just heard back from Minnkota, the new brushless quest ultrex TM will run 24v/36v with nothing to change...only the new brushless quest versions. Not sure how long they have been out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born 2 fish Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 24 minutes ago, bishoptf said: Just heard back from Minnkota, the new brushless quest ultrex TM will run 24v/36v with nothing to change...only the new brushless quest versions. Not sure how long they have been out though. Good to know thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBasser Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 On 3/25/2024 at 12:18 PM, bishoptf said: Still have to try to go see a phoenix but sounds like there trailers are not the best, not sure why you put a great boat on a dodgy trailer but lots of complaints about those trailers. The trailer issue isn’t just limited to Phoenix. It’s all brands because they all use trailer parts manufactured by Dexter/UFP regardless of the brand of boat you buy. This is the case for Lund, Ranger, Nitro, Phoenix, Triton, Caymas, etc. You also hear about more issues from Phoenix because most Phoenix owners are typically younger guys traveling around the country fishing tournaments due to the great incentives that Phoenix offers. Those trailers are gonna see more issues simply because they see more use. I’d argue that the typical Lund owner is more like a guy who takes his boat to the local lake once a week. Find a reputable local dealer instead of Bass Pro. If you were to ever have a warranty issue come up, you’d have a much easier time working with a local dealership Also I highly recommend that you call each boat manufacturer you’re interested in and try talk to someone there about their boat. You’ll see right away what sets Phoenix apart from the rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYBasser Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 On 3/25/2024 at 6:20 PM, Born 2 fish said: Trailers can have issues regardless of brand but can be fixed pretty easy. The most important thing is that whatever brand boat you decide to buy make sure you have support after the sale. Weather it be trough the dealership you bought it from or the manufacturer of the boat. That’s very important to me. Also look into the transferable hull warranty’s on the boat brands your considering and do some research on how those different companies handled prior clames. If you plan on keeping the boat for a while this is all worth it . This right here. Lund’s “Limited Lifetime Hull and Transom Warranty” is actually prorated so they cover it fully for only the first 3 years. Starting in the 4th year, you are responsible for 30% of the repair cost, 40% in the 5th year, and etc. This is exactly what happened with my buddy. He had a transom failure in year 4 of owning his Lund Fury 1600 and ended up paying around $4k out of pocket to get his boat that was $13k when he purchased it new fixed. If he had a bought a Phoenix instead he wouldn’t have been charged a dime because they actually stand behind their products. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishoptf Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 Thanks for all the input, right now I have really settled on a couple of boats and favoring one. Here is my short list at the moment Phoenix 819 pro Skeeter (zx200 new or zxr19 used) Lund Pro v Bass 1875 Right now if I had my choice right now it would be a skeeter zxr19. I had a really good offer on a 23 zx200 but it would have been a looong drive and probably think this is lame but I wasn't crazy about the color, may be my last boat and would prefer something I like to look at etc, I know probably lame. I have seen several zxr20's for sale that would fit the bill but they are just to big for what I need, I probably could go 18ft but thinking 19ft is a good compromise. If I could find a used 819 decked out that would be a contender but again most boats I am seeing are the bigger nicer boats. There is a used 721 locally decked out low hours but again just more than I need. Why I prefer the skeeters are the come with a yamaha sho and usually bird finders which is what I prefer. I know Mercury pro xs are nice engines also, just prefer the yamaha same for the finders etc, just my preference. I still haven't looked at a phoenix, will probably get to see one this coming weekend. I know they are nice boats with the only negative I have read is mainly about the trailers. Thanks for all the suggestions/input and advice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User J Francho Posted March 28 Super User Share Posted March 28 Skeeter IS Yamaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishoptf Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 8 minutes ago, J Francho said: Skeeter IS Yamaha Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishoptf Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 I see a like new Caymas close by, I know it was started up by Bentz but I have not read much as to how good the boats are, anyone have one or know much about them. It's a CX19 that I see for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born 2 fish Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, bishoptf said: Thanks for all the input, right now I have really settled on a couple of boats and favoring one. Here is my short list at the moment Phoenix 819 pro Skeeter (zx200 new or zxr19 used) Lund Pro v Bass 1875 Right now if I had my choice right now it would be a skeeter zxr19. I had a really good offer on a 23 zx200 but it would have been a looong drive and probably think this is lame but I wasn't crazy about the color, may be my last boat and would prefer something I like to look at etc, I know probably lame. I have seen several zxr20's for sale that would fit the bill but they are just to big for what I need, I probably could go 18ft but thinking 19ft is a good compromise. If I could find a used 819 decked out that would be a contender but again most boats I am seeing are the bigger nicer boats. There is a used 721 locally decked out low hours but again just more than I need. Why I prefer the skeeters are the come with a yamaha sho and usually bird finders which is what I prefer. I know Mercury pro xs are nice engines also, just prefer the yamaha same for the finders etc, just my preference. I still haven't looked at a phoenix, will probably get to see one this coming weekend. I know they are nice boats with the only negative I have read is mainly about the trailers. Thanks for all the suggestions/input and advice. If your buying new you can get the Phoenix with a Yamaha. Not liking the color is not lame at all it’s your boat and it’s expensive I wouldn’t want a boat I don’t want to look at. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishoptf Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 6 minutes ago, Born 2 fish said: If your buying new you can get the Phoenix with a Yamaha. Not liking the color is not lame at all it’s your boat and it’s expensive I wouldn’t want a boat I don’t want to look at. Most of the phoenix's I see out there are with Merc's, I would like to find something slightly old like 2022-2023 and there are more phoenix's out there then skeeters. Just going to try to be patient and see what happens, not one of my strong suits, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User J Francho Posted March 28 Super User Share Posted March 28 My next boat is likely to be a Caymas, though not a bass boat. They're quality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User TOXIC Posted March 28 Super User Share Posted March 28 Whatever boat(s) you are looking at, go to the owners pages on good ol social media and you’ll see the good, the bad, and the ugly. Kinda like picking up Ben Milliken running Caymas and having the hull delaminate and him switching to BassCat🤔😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishoptf Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 23 minutes ago, TOXIC said: Whatever boat(s) you are looking at, go to the owners pages on good ol social media and you’ll see the good, the bad, and the ugly. Kinda like picking up Ben Milliken running Caymas and having the hull delaminate and him switching to BassCat🤔😉 Yeah understand, I just saw one locally or close but I think I am sticking with the ones I have listed, I have thought about basscat but I think the one I would be looking at would be the panterra II and again not as many out there at least in my neck of the woods. I am not concerned about going fast, just want something stable that handles well probably will never run over 50-55 etc..any suggestions on 19ft basscats I am all ears, the ones about the panterra II get pretty pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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