Thoughts for a versatile spinning rod?

[jejenkyns]

Steez 7'6MML?

Steez 7'1 Utility Spin?

P5 Windbuster?

P5 Addermine?

 

Overall versatility is the main goal, sensitivity and fun factor are secondary objectives.

 

Thanks!

[AlabamaSpothunter]

All those rods you listed are functionally exceptional, but they also offer the 'Gucci' factor.   They are aesthetically pleasing rods.    They are however made in China.  

 

A lot of what you end up paying for is the extra labor and materials that go into making a rod aesthetically pleasing imho.   

 

On the other side of that, you have the Alpha Angler Wrench.   A rod purposely built for versatility and sensitivity in mind, and almost no consideration for aesthetics.  Hints the name 'Wrench', you can use it for everything.   It nails the first two requirements of your needs, but I wouldn't call 'fun factor' as an attribute to the rod.   It's a very boring rod to the naked eye, however in usage it's about as perfect of a spinning rod that exists.   It features a mix of traditional and recoil guides and uses a graphite blend that is also used by Boeing.    It's quite the well thought rod in terms of design and materials. 

 

I use mine for everything but it really shines with Senkos/Nekos and Jighead Minnows.  

 

Recommended Spinning Bass Fishing Rod - Senko Rod – Alpha Angler

[PaulVE64]

Megabass has a few all purpose rods which for me is a fast,/xfast tip for sensitivity with jigs and  but then a parabolic mid for treble hooks and swimbaits.

St Croix Victory rods do it for me and I hear the new Fenwicks are also good.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

Versatile in what way and to what degree? Wide lure weight range? Low to mid, mid to high? Action beneficial to single and treble hooks? Etc. 

[TNBankFishing]

13 hours ago, jejenkyns said:

Steez 7'6MML?

Steez 7'1 Utility Spin?

P5 Windbuster?

P5 Addermine?

 

Overall versatility is the main goal, sensitivity and fun factor are secondary objectives.

 

Thanks!

7’6 MML.
Things you can throw:

BR head swimbaits

Drop shot

Hair Jig

Jerkbait

Squarebill

Finesse 1/8-1/4 jigs

Ned

Lipless

Spybaits

Neko

Free rig

 

 

Yeah, “The One” is versatile and hyper sensitive. 

 

[Randy Price]

The most versatile spinning rod IMO is something in the 6'6"-7'0" range Medium power Fast tip.  I like SC rods but there are so many other name brands to choose from also.

[jejenkyns]

On 9/3/2024 at 8:44 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

Versatile in what way and to what degree? Wide lure weight range? Low to mid, mid to high? Action beneficial to single and treble hooks? Etc. 

I'm mostly interested in the 7'6 MML. Most of my rods are 7' or under and I'm looking for something to bomb cast various things. 

 

The lure rating, marketing and customer feedback of this rod seem to suggest that it splits the difference in power and application between the 7'1 Utility Spin and the 7'1 ML, whatever that rod is called. I have a ML that I'm fairly happy with and so it really comes down to the 7'1 or 7'6, or maybe a windbuster. In practice some rods don't live up to that kind of hype.

 

By application alone, the 7'1 is probably the right rod, however, I'm the kind of guy that will sacrifice a little performance in order to have fewer rods every time. So I'm hoping the 7'6mml will do everything the 7'1 M and ML will do, even if it isn't a good at either application set/weight ranges. I'd prefer to get rid of my ML altogether if this ro

 

Truth is, the Windbuster or Utility Spin is probably the safest bet for me as far as application, but I'm gambling on the idea that the 7'6 will let me ditch my current ML.

 

Ideally, I'm sitting 0.5 to 1 notch in power lower than the Steez 7'0" Sensor. I'd like some overlap but be able to throw lighter, in the 1/8th to 1/4 category, while also having enough bend to throw more moving baits. Ideally my new rod would share the load with the sensor while offering more utility than it does a little lower, and without being so fast.

 

Ideally the rod can handle weedless presentations with a 3/0 hook and open hook stuff. Flyssa and Landsat are likely underpowered for what I'm looking for and I think the Windbuster and Utility Spin, while likely being safe buys, probably would be too much rod than the "ideal" rod I'm imagining.

 

Hope this makes sense

 

 

[jejenkyns]

17 hours ago, Randy Price said:

The most versatile spinning rod IMO is something in the 6'6"-7'0" range Medium power Fast tip.  I like SC rods but there are so many other name brands to choose from also.

That's a fair point!

 

I've noticed, that for me, all my favourite rods are a bit weird, in that they straddle the line between more traditional powers. Thus my interest in the 7'6 steez.

 

With regards to rod length, I don't own any rods longer7'0" with most landing between 6'3" and 6"8. I think my preference for short rods mostly applies to casting rods because I'm target casting in tight quarters. Lately I've been starting to get interested in longer rods. We'll see I guess!

On 9/3/2024 at 9:52 AM, TNBankFishing said:

7’6 MML.
Things you can throw:

BR head swimbaits

Drop shot

Hair Jig

Jerkbait

Squarebill

Finesse 1/8-1/4 jigs

Ned

Lipless

Spybaits

Neko

Free rig

 

 

Yeah, “The One” is versatile and hyper sensitive. 

 

If this rod is powerful enough to free rig with then it will find a home, if it can do the rest of that stuff it might just be "the one".

[TNBankFishing]

2 hours ago, jejenkyns said:

That's a fair point!

 

I've noticed, that for me, all my favourite rods are a bit weird, in that they straddle the line between more traditional powers. Thus my interest in the 7'6 steez.

 

With regards to rod length, I don't own any rods longer7'0" with most landing between 6'3" and 6"8. I think my preference for short rods mostly applies to casting rods because I'm target casting in tight quarters. Lately I've been starting to get interested in longer rods. We'll see I guess!

If this rod is powerful enough to free rig with then it will find a home, if it can do the rest of that stuff it might just be "the one".

The top 3rd is ML then it transitions smoothly into a strong medium. With it being 7’6” you’ve got enough length you’re not suffering with the tip. 

[Rockhopper]

https://edgerods.com/product/bws-hsr-760-1

 

https://edgerods.com/product/bws-hsr-7600-1

 

Add a new Vanford 2500/3000 to that 760-1 and you will have an incredible all purpose, light weight spin rod.  Probably all you would ever need.

[padon]

i own the addremine. it was built to be a dropshot rod that can handle open hooks as well as texas rigged small worms like roboworm etc on a dropshot.i also fish neko rigs ned rigs wacky senkos in light cover on it. i love it for all those applications but i wouldnt call it  versitile. lacks the strength for shakey heads finnese jigs etc.

[jejenkyns]

1 hour ago, padon said:

i own the addremine. it was built to be a dropshot rod that can handle open hooks as well as texas rigged small worms like roboworm etc on a dropshot.i also fish neko rigs ned rigs wacky senkos in light cover on it. i love it for all those applications but i wouldnt call it  versitile. lacks the strength for shakey heads finnese jigs etc.

Sounds like that isn't quite strong enough of a rod for me right now. I was considering this as I own a Levante Whipsnake, which I sometimes wish was a little more powerful, but I'd be best stepping it up more and keeping the whipsnake I think. 

 

Thanks!

[padon]

yeah the adermine  is more like the shakeyhead  in the orochi line but not quite as stout. if you go p5 i would go windbuster.

[DogBone_384]

I have a two Kistler 'light-medium/heavy' spinning rods, which are almost universal.  The L/MH has a nice light tip but MH backbone near the handle.  The first is an older, Magnesium2, and the second is a current Helium model.  I use them for almost everything except drop-shotting.  The MG2 is rated 1/8 - 3/4 and the Helium 3/16 - 5/8.

 

The Helium shines for tubes/Senko/'regular' sized worms.  I'll throw 1/4 oz micro jigs on it too.  

 

The MG2 is no longer available.  It does everything the Helium does but feels just a little 'lighter'.  It throws Ned sized baits better too.

 

I like Kistler rods because they're hand made in TX and can be very competitively priced when on sale.  Kistler also builds custom rods.  I have three and am very happy with them.  Email your questions and they'll get back to you in good order.

[jejenkyns]

On 9/2/2024 at 10:12 PM, PaulVE64 said:

Megabass has a few all purpose rods which for me is a fast,/xfast tip for sensitivity with jigs and  but then a parabolic mid for treble hooks and swimbaits.

St Croix Victory rods do it for me and I hear the new Fenwicks are also good.

Which MB rods are you referring to? 

[PaulVE64]

1 hour ago, jejenkyns said:

Which MB rods are you referring to? 

Windbuster and levante shakey head

[Brian11719]

7' medium fast (pick a vendor with a handle style and price that works for you). Works great for a senko, swim worm or a shakey head but you can also get away with a drop shot or a fluke (although I prefer different rods for these).

[MickD]

 

What does "bomb cast" mean? 

[Dwight Hottle]

@MickD Casting for maximum distance. 

[MickD]

2 hours ago, Dwight Hottle said:

@MickD Casting for maximum distance. 

If casting for max distance is a priority then matching the power of the rod to the weight being cast is very important, with the best action probably being moderate-fast. 

 

It gets hard to suggest solutions when the original post said the main goal was versatility, and then we start talking about casting for max distance as a goal.  

 

If versatility is the most important goal then stay with moderate-fast action, and go as long as is comfortable to try to maximize casting distance with the suggested lure weights in the range of what is most likely to be used. 

[PaulVE64]

I agree totally. I'm enjoying my newest rod which is a spinning 7'6" mlxf. Best river rod Ive fished.  It has a very parabolic mid. I'm loving that rod. Last yr I threw a 6' mlf on that water and a 7'mf the years before that.

[jejenkyns]

4 hours ago, PaulVE64 said:

I agree totally. I'm enjoying my newest rod which is a spinning 7'6" mlxf. Best river rod Ive fished.  It has a very parabolic mid. I'm loving that rod. Last yr I threw a 6' mlf on that water and a 7'mf the years before that.

what rod did you buy with those specs?

 

[PaulVE64]

It's the StC Victory blank 7'6" in the Avid walleye series. So the hardware is trashier.

Still love my Avid 7' mf the best for the right water.

[PaulVE64]

The few Megabass rods I've held were pfignominagobel (sp?,)

But I stayed with stC because the warranty is great

[MickD]

The longer the rod the more likely it is that an X-fast action will work well for about everything.  An X-fast 7-6 is  about like having a 6-6 mod-fast with a one foot broomstick extension glued to the butt.