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Which knot for a ned rig?

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I always use a loop knot when rigging a curlytail grub on a round head. Should I use a loop knot for the neds as well? Or is it desirable to tie a firm knot to ned heads, and if so, why?

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I use my old-reliable MK knot for everything - I can't remember the last time I used a loop knot.

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8 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

I use my old-reliable MK knot for everything - I can't remember the last time I used a loop knot.

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I wasn't aware of that knot, thanks.

 

I use a loop knot for flukes, jigheads and crankbaits that either don't have a split ring or where I remove the split ring. I find a loop knot makes the action on a rattle trap better.

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For crankbaits, I replace the circular split ring with an Owner Oval split ring - never noticed a problem. Jerkbaits get an Owner Teardrop split ring to let them waggle a bit more.

 

Everything else is direct tie with the MK knot.

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5 minutes ago, HawkeyeSmallie said:

All depends on the line you are using.

Okay, which type of knots would be appropriate for mono, fluoro, and braid, when using a ned head for stick bait type ned rig?

For Neds I use 10# braid to relatively long 6-8# fluoro leader.  I use the palomar knot.  I like it because it’s strong enough that I can bend out hooks on snags long before it fails.

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4 minutes ago, Bazoo said:

Okay, which type of knots would be appropriate for mono, fluoro, and braid, when using a ned head for stick bait type ned rig?


I use a clinch knot for mono and fluoro and a palomar knot for braid. 

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I use a uni with 4-5 turns

29 minutes ago, Bazoo said:

Okay, which type of knots would be appropriate for mono, fluoro, and braid, when using a ned head for stick bait type ned rig?


JMO

 

 braid - palamor

mono - improved clinch

fluoro - double pitzen 

 

Those are my personal favorites and would definitely work with a ned rig.

 

 

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So everyone is tying solid to a ned rig and not using a loop knot. Thanks all.

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I use a loop knot on most baits I'm going to swim or stroll with a 90* line tie.  So long as the loop isnt too big, it allows the bait swim free and look a little more natural.  

I like to vary the retrieve with my ned baits, so I really like loop knots.  

The tag has to go through the correct side of the loop, both times to get the strongest knot and have the tag point down so that it doesn't pick up grass or slime.

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I use the kreh loop knot. I've perfected tying it and the tag points rearward. If most people use a regular knot, I reckon a loop knot would give me a bit of an edge.

I have been using the Trilene knot on everything since the late 1980's. 

 

With one addition...after step #3, I run the end back in the loop just made.

 

This knot has served me well with mono, fluorocarbon, and braid. 

 

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4 hours ago, Jar11591 said:


I use a clinch knot for mono and fluoro and a palomar knot for braid. 

This

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SDJ is what I use on my Neds with 8 - 10 FC leaders

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3 minutes ago, GreenPig said:

SDJ is what I use on my Neds with 8 - 10 FC leaders

Thanks. I haven't tried it, but it looks good. When I saw the diagram I said, that looks like a reversed clinch knot, and then I saw, it was called the reverse clinch.

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I use only one knot for all lines it is called a Pitzen.

I use a loop knot for ned rigs. It allows a little extra wiggle on the fall, in my estimation.

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The best knot you can tie. 

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Palomar easy to tie using small skirt less jigs like a Ned. SD jam knot works good.

Tom

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