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Ok so i was recently told by a awesome pro that it is not good to use the palomar knot with fluorocarbon lines (which i now use for everything except topwater and heavy flipping), because it being so strong it will actually cut thru itself. So this bring up the question what knots do you like with which lines????

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O ya personally ive always used the palomar knot and have had minimal issues mostly dry line causing it to give.

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I use the 16/20 with all lines.

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I use the Palomar knot for everything. Just retie after a few fish. I've been using this knot since I was young and it's 1 of only 3 knots that I know how to tie.

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With all lines, I find myself using the Trilene knot and Improved Clinch more than anything else.  Simple, yes I know, but they've always worked for me.

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All my line is yozuri hybrid ultra soft..I use mostly the palomar, but some baits get the Trilene knot.

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Really. Well, after drop shotting 4# test fluorocarbon for 6 years now - this being my 7th. - I've never had a problem using the palomar knot. I'm fishing for SM in a deep, very clear reservoir and have caught many hundreds of fish over the years, 2 1/2 - 4 3/4 lbs., with no problems. So, maybe someone needs to tell your "pro" how to tie a palomar knot!

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well everyone has they're right to opinion and all lines(brands)are different. so I wouldnt go as far as saying he needs to learn how to tie a knot considering he's a very accomplished angler. like I said, I myself have always tied the palomar knot (so much that I can tie it in about 5 seconds) and i have never had any issue just thought id spark the discussion.

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With all lines, I find myself using the Trilene knot and Improved Clinch more than anything else. Simple, yes I know, but they've always worked for me.

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The key to any knot is proper lubrication.  When tying a palomar with flourocarbon, you must take special care to coat the knot with spit and slowly cinch using the tag end.

Try tying a knot without spit and using the mainline to cinch.  The line above the knot will look wavy like curly hair.  That is due to the friction generated from cinching the knot.

Now do the same thing, but get the knot good and wet and cinch by pulling the tag end.  The line shouldn't be curly.

Patience and lubrication is what it takes.  I've never used anything but a palomar with flourocarbon and I've never had a knot break.  I may have to cut & retie on occasion if I've gotten in a hurry, but that's about it.

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I use the palomar on braid only, and it will break just as easy as any other knot if you snag up. Floro, and mono get a clinch. There is no alpha omega knot, they all break. My braid is 50, and 65 power pro, and yes it will break off almost as easy as mono. My floro is seaguar red label, I have tried the invisx, and the abrazex, and the red works just as well for less. I don't really use mono any more, but the last mono I bought was a bulk spool of bps 12lb excel, and it sucked.

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I use an improved clinch or a palomar knot with braid, and really can't tell the difference in performance.  

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I use the 16/20 with all lines.

I use the Sixteen-Twenty to tie on big, treble hook lures where

the Palomar Knot is just too cumbersome. However, the Palomar

can be used for all lines and lures.

8-)

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Palomar. I've never been broken off at the knot when using palomar, even with fluoro. Improved clinches are weak IMO but I know they work for some people.

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I use the eye-crosser with floro and the palomar with everything else.  My tests show that even though floro is plenty strong and the palomar works well with floro for the most part for some reason its not very shock resistant when used on floro.  Meaning when your pitchin or flipping and really set that hook if the line is crossed at the hook tie  eye the floro will cut into it self and snap at the knot no matter what knot ive used.  I just find it easier to tell if the line is crossed by using this cool named knot and its just about as easy to tie as the palomar and showed about the same strengtht at knot wars last year. Tight Lines

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I usually use the uni know for everything, but I might start trying that eye-crosser, it looks easy and that it will keep a high percentage of the line strength

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When your line becomes nicked or frayed you can lose up to 85% in breaking strength.

It doesn't make much sense to anguish over knots with breaking strengths that are 3% apart.

My philosophy has always been to select a good knot that can be used for everything (trebled plugs included),

and a knot that is easy to tie. In this fashion you'll become an expert at tying that one knot.

Long story short, I've been using the Uni-knot for fresh and saltwater angling for 25 years or more.

It can be used for braid and mono and requires no pre-wetting or special attention.

Firmly snug the uni-knot before the final tightening, and it will never slip, never break and never disappoint.

Roger

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