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IMPO, this is just uncalled for :-(

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On the way to one of my favorite lakes, their is this one farmers field, where he has (the last time I drove by) 3 dead Coyote's strung up by there rear feet, from the top of the steel poles on his barbed wire fence, right beside a much traveled public roadway.

Okay, so its his land. And maybe these Coyotes had been killing his livestock. Probably totally within his rights to kill them.

And ya' know, I think I need to make a disclaimer here; I don't have ANY problem with hunting, nor even controlled kills of certain species, when deemed neccessary and unavoidable by the DFG.

HOWEVER, IMPO hanging these animals beside the road to rot, in clear display is just plain crude, rude, and indecent exposure for the general public which is subjected to it.

Each time I've wanted to stop, take photos, and show you how bad this looks..... But then, I figure, I would be just as wrong as that farmer is, for posting those pics on a public forum.

Your opinins please....

Fish

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I have to agree,hanging them up for everybody to see is sick and uncalled for.

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Chris,

It's common practice in rural Tx.. I don't know much about it but the farmers and ranchers claim it keeps a lot of coyotes out. Some claim they are smart enough to get the hint, other say it's a scent thing where a dead coyote smell different to other coyotes and it's a warning scent.

Either way, I seems to work to some degree. We have hunted several places over the years that had lots of coyotes... the places that the rancher shot and hung the coyotes on the perimeter fences, seemed to get much less coyote traffic afterwards. (like entire packs would avoid the area, not just the few that were on the fence!) Maybe the ones still inside the fence were all we continued to see. ?

I agree that it can be an eyesore and looks bad to the anti's but it's a control measure, and is "accepted practice" in many rural and coyote rich areas.

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Even though I 'm a city boy I love the outdoors and the type of recreational activities you can practice like fishing and hunting ( even though I don 't hunt anymore ), I don 't mind seeing a dead animal, death in my line of business is an everyday event, I don 't mind seeing pictures of you showing a trophy buck. It may be "common and accepted practice" to hang dead animals like coyotes on fences to "control" ( scare away ) animal populations but for crying out loud, you don 't need to hang the entire carcass to do that where everybody can see it.

Hanging dead animals from a barbed wire fence to be seen by everybody = PETA fuel.

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Guest muddy

That dates all the way back to Native American Culture. I once considered doing the same thing with my former mother in law, my freedom was not worth it!

 

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Good one Muddy  :-)

But yes Raul, high octane PETA fuel, to say the least !

I have heard about the smell of dead coyotes scaring off live ones.... but then, wouldn't placing the carcass in a gunny sack out there in the field, give off the same scent ?

"OR" at least hang in behind the barn, or some trees, etc. more hidden from public view.

I wouldn't force somebody to watch me clean a fish either, if they didn't want to see it.

Fish

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Being a Cajun I have don't problem with seeing dead animals but I understand some people do. What many cattle ranchers and farmers with cattle are starting to learn is donkeys; donkeys are a natural enemy of coyotes and will attach coyotes stomping them to death. Seeing 4 or 5 donkeys mixing into a herd of is getting to be very common in areas with coyote problems.  

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It scares other coyotes away

True, works with most animals. My old man shoots crows and strings 'em up. Keeps all the other crows out of the blueberry patch.

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As flechero said this is pretty common practice in Texas and i haven't ever thought much of it., but you are right it is pretty disgusting.  Not even to mention the PETA fuel.  I seriously doubt that it helps keep coyotes out but again you are right when you say just put them a little out of view if you believe it.

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i would think it does keep the others out, but like others have said, he could have found a better place to hang them.

perhaps you should talk to the farmer about it and see if he could take them down and put em somewhere else.

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:-/ I don't know, darn saburbans

there's worse things, But thats how we live around here. We seem to cling to our Guns & Religion

guess what I'll hang on the fence to keep the boys away from my daughter >:(

are we going to go fishen yet, before we decide its cruel to hook a worm in public :P

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Yep, like has been said it's pretty common around here.  I find it distasteful as I do the heads of catfish hung from fence posts near farmers ponds.  

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I just dont think its right the way they protest.  If they were a peaceful group it wouldn't be as bad but IMO they make too much commotion as it is. There are way too many radical people in PETA.  

How can they protest a catch and release tournament anyway?

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I agree with Fish Chris.

If hanging coyotes really works, it will work just as well 100 yards inside the fence and out of sight! That goes for deer on the hood of your truck, too.

The vast majority of "non-hunters" just don't care about YOU hunting. So, being neutral really puts them on our side. There is absolutely no reason to insult or prejudice our "friends", let alone provide ammunition to the enemy!

I hate the "in-your-face" attitude that does nothing for our cause.

>:(

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Long time ago, coyotes were a controlled population, one being a fur bearing animal, and the other was to aid ranchers.    Most ranchers in question raised the Angora goat for Mohair and the other was sheep.

Coyotes affect the population of these more than cows.     Most of the time coyotes only persues a cow when she's gone into labor, its the after-birth the coyote smell and seeks.

 The statement to hang coyotes is practiced amoung Tx Cattlemans Assoc. after the state imposed a sanction protecting the coyote long ago and numerous times since those days.    Which eliminated trappers controlling them.  

   Its a statement to politicians and the government, We'll protect our assets as we see fit!

     Never heard of using them as detouriants, but as a statement, yes!!!

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I'm not too sure I would want to see it and see the decay.

If it works, OK.  Maybe it'd be nice if he just laid them on the ground instead of hanging them.

Perhaps he puts them there because that's where they cross.

No matter what, there's always two sides to the issue.

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in the florida keys back in the day, tarpon fisherman would catch, kill, and hang bullsharks from the bridge pilings in belief that the other bull sharks would get the hint and leave the hooked tarpon alone. don't know if it worked, but i sure was ticked when 6 400 pound bullsharks destroyed my 150 pound tarpon right in front of me.

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Mythbusters did a show on hanging dead animals to detour others.

Google it and find out their results.    Myth or does it work?

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I agree with Fish Chris.

If hanging coyotes really works, it will work just as well 100 yards inside the fence and out of sight! That goes for deer on the hood of your truck, too.

The vast majority of "non-hunters" just don't care about YOU hunting. So, being neutral really puts them on our side. There is absolutely no reason to insult or prejudice our "friends", let alone provide ammunition to the enemy!

I hate the "in-your-face" attitude that does nothing for our cause.

>:(

Right-on, Kent.

Think of a little old lady who normally has no opinion on the subject of hunting/guns, outdoor ethics, animal rights, etc. If she happens to be driving down the highway, stops at a stop sign and see's your bloody dead deer head with its tongue hanging out off your tailgate or the dead coyote carcasses on the fence post, then she can be turned against hunting. If she sees enough, then she goes home and starts a letter-writing campaign to the local senator. Before long, the senator sees a need to ban/tighten laws on hunting. It could happen!

We as hunters/outdoors enthusiasts must make every effort to set a postive and ethical image to the general public. Always remember that hunting and fishing are PRIVILEGES, not rights.

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