fish-fighting-illini

I think the news reported the other night that we have had rain for 153 days so far this year or of the lst 365? The longest streak w/o rain has been 9 days and only did that once maybe.

This is where it gets tricky.. Were the other 2 actually singing? ;D Seems as though it should have been Milli all along not Nilli oh well

Me too. :-[ I'm assuming he referring to Prince's "Purple Rain" and Milli Vanilli's "Blame it on the Rain" Yep you got it I figured it was way too easy. maybe not for team pampers though?

I'm not sure how much they will win but the Illini have a chance to be interesting this year. Can't be any worse than the football team no matter what happens.

ps I forgot to mention that it rained all night and is raining again now

RAIN!!!!!! stinkin RAIN I say It has rained everyday starting Saturday. Most days it has rained all day long and I mean all 24hrs. Many were heavy all day rains no less. Arghhh! This on top of one of the wettest spring and summers on record ( 2nd wettest spring on record no less). Many peoples basements have been converted into temporary reservoirs. If you Texans were a little more due south your problem would be solved.

I gave the Cat an 8.5 deducted for laying around too long afterwards

LAUGH and a big x2

Very well put Matt

If you only used it a month why would you consider having to get it fixed? It is not unreasonable to expect a reel to last longer than that. If local try to take it back where you bought it and get it exchanged. If not local then, I had one and in about a month it started having trouble with the line not picking up. I found the spool nut to be lose. Once I tightened that it worked fine. I've had Johnson Century's before and they were workhorses and maybe the best spincaster out there. All things considered though if you can take it back can afford it, and want to spend the money you'd probably be better off to spend a little more. There are plenty of past posts here in the search to help you. Else post your budget and ask for suggestions. P.S. welcome

I'm not as big of a fan on the regular as I am on the ultra soft. I only use the reg on BC's and honestly though haven't given it a great try. I tend to think braid gives far less backlash than mono or Yozuri. I use the Ultra on my spinning and it gets much less line twist than mono IMO. Forget backing as Ultra is dirt cheap in my opinion. And this being from a frugal Freedy no less. I also like the breaking strength.

Ok guys as promised I save my final feedback for after I read some of your replies. I had sent this reply before I ever started this thread I try to keep it reasonably civil but when I reach a certain point I'll get down in the dirt with the best of them. I sent the message below as is I didn't use the really offensive word versions Warning! what you are about to read is in no way to be confused with a classy response! I would imagine that my Ebay privileges are being reviewed at this very moment. The seller has been quiet ever since, it could be they are on their way to my house or arranging for a local thug. My response from memory as I didn't save it You have a point on the advance heads up message I didnt think of that. I do owe you an apology for that. I've tried to keep my responses reasonably professional throughout this feedback process. ( something you could learn from). My original intention was basically to give others a heads up and also to help you. I thought you would want to know if your business had a potential problem. Good businesses like to get feedback on how they're doing so they can improve ( another thing you can learn from. Now for the non professional part I could care friggin less what you think one way or the other! I haven't needed to buy anything for some time so I've been gone. Who appointed you the official Ebay God! ? Like I said I have tried to keep it reasonably professional but from your opening response you have been an arrogant, pompous, a -hole You can flat out go frig yourself!

Had the sellers post been anywhere near the class of this man's post there would be no issue. That is why Glenn is where he is at in life. Glenn's post ought to be made a sticky on how to post with class. I hear ya Glenn I was somewhat rusty or I would have contacted them. It has been a rough health week here again so sleep and time are in short supply unfortunately. One rough reply would have been tolerable but 2 or 3 (?) tacky posts are out of line. Glenn your points are well understood and well taken. Thanks for your time and the class of your input.

I have always kind of agreed and still do. Like I've said all along I was never sure that my rating was right. That is not the issue nor the reason for the orig post. Perhaps the wording of my questions leaves something to be desired. I highlited my questions in the original post to help clarify.

Vol I hear you. My rating might have been wrong I freely admit that and admit that from minute one. I disagreee full force though on it being done w/o class. I posted in my orig feedbck that I was torn on how to rate ( meaning neutral of negative). People can disagree and anyone be flat out wrong but still disagree in a classy manner. I thought I posted in a resonably classy manner but perhaps not. Had someone spoken to me in this manner in person they would have been eating their teeth for breakfast.

Yes I checked them out before I ever bid on it. That is why in 2 different responses that I said I ws kind of torn between a negative and a neutral. Cart I believe even if you leave a neutral you have to send a response. I just thought others should be warned in advance that if they are considering buying something fragile. I really thought a long time before I hit the negative. All I was wanting to do was highlite the issue is all. Whether my rating was right or wrong isn't my issue. I admit from the git go that my rating might have been too low. Which I readily admitted from my original feedback. I just perceived their responses as very classless from minute one. Ranting and raving, finger pointing, not taking responsibility for the problem - "I don't ship the product I don't run that portion of the business" why is that my problem? That's their internal issue not mine,"would rather ship broken with neutral than ok with negative" what kind of way is that to run a business? lets just get it out of here quick and if it breaks we'll fix the problem later. I know it is long but read my whole 1st post closely.

What's your opinion on the tone of their responses?

I had a recent internet transaction as the buyer for a fishing reel. When the reel came it was wedged into a box that was too small. The seat of the reel had in fact cut through and was sticking out the side of the box. There was also no packing of any kind in the box; no peanuts, no paper, no foam nada. Note: The reel appears to be undamaged. The seller did a good job and has almost all positive feedback. I was torn between giving a neutral rating and a negative one and I chose negative. My thought was to make other buyers aware of the sub-par shipping and to inform the seller that to avoid future claims that they might want to make improvements. I am posting below the orig feedback and subsequent conversations. I will save my final response until after you guys give some feedback ( pardon the pun )as it has lets say a different flair. My question? Is it just me or does the seller's response seem way overboard? It just seemed to me like they wanted to blame everything and everyone, borderline early ranting and raving. I'm just curious on how you see the conversation. Were my early responses inappropriate? Thanks for your input. My original buying feedback torn on rating, nice prod, quick, Packing terrible, prod unhar'd best I can tell When you leave negative feedback it asks you to provide more detail to the seller so this is that response kind of hated to leave negative feedback. You did an timely job, nice product as advertised but the packaging was really sub-par. The item was way too large for the box and it had zero packaging to protect anything. I felt obligated to warn others as I would want them to warn me if I was the next buyer. I do apologize for appearing to blast you. Probably better to take a lump now than have to deal with a future broken item? Nothing for you to do like I said the product seems unharmed. The bail has a unique shape but I think it is normal. I don't really want to travel 40miles round trip to Gander mtn to confirm. Sorry for the bluntness The sellers first response to me You gave me a negative for "sub-par" packaging? Seriously?? The item arrived quickly and as advertised in the stated condition and you hit me with a negative on shipping? Sometimes the shipping company doesn't handle the boxes too well and they get a little beat up. Don't you think that a neutral feedback would have been more appropriate? I have completed over 2,000 transactions over the past 6 months. If your unsatisfied with the packaging or product returning the item or a message would be more appreciated in warning and notice since this is a company and I do not do the shipping but run the rest of the company. You received a $50 dollar reel for $20 dollars including shipping and you want to grill me on the fact that the box did not have appropriate packing material? We try our hardest to complete every transaction on time and with the best packing possible. Sometimes with a large quantity of items going out a mistake might occur. Your talking about a lump now then a future broken item? I would have much rather taken a broken item neutral feedback any day then a "good" transaction except for shipping with a negative feedback. You don't realize the impact of a negative feedback on Ebay. We did not intentionally pack the item to sub par standard, or have we ever in the past. My response to that I could go *** for tat on your responses but life is too short to mess with it. Originally I was torn on my rating. After reading your reply blaming everyone under the sun and unfounded accusations of deliberate actions I know I made the right decision. If I knew the impact of what a negative does I would have offered to change it ( if that is even possible). You were too busy blaming everyone else to take the time to explain it. For the record the reel wouldn't even fit in the box it was put in. The box was ballooned out for it to fit. There was no packing for protection of any kind none, nada, zero. The reel in fact poked through ripping the side of the box. I agree some of this was bad USPS handling but a claim ( not needed? ) would never have held up with such sub-par packing I doubt you care to know this but just so we know what was involved. To me you would have gotten better e-bay customer mileage out of " we probably booted this one, glad it arrived unharmed" Their latest Yea ok. Don't you think a message once the item arrived to me would have enabled me to fix the problem before you rant and rave about how you know everything. Seeing you don't even have any feedback this entire year shows your lack of knowledge about ebay and how it works. Ebay has changed since your last purchase a year ago. Do everybody a favour, including ebay and stay off of this marketplace Sorry about the length FFI

I spelled it that way for a reason. There is a reason that AZ was in the Superbowl last year and we weren't. Same reason we won't be near it this year. I heard during the game that the Bears don't have a 1st or a second round pick for next year. It could be a long couple of years. We need help on the offensive & defensive lines big time. I seemed even in the middle of the game where Urlacher got hurt that it instantly showed how important that he was to the defense. That might not be accurate though just seems like it. Man it is ugly.

I've had mostly Chevy vehicles since 1979. I doubt that I will be buying another ever. Too much junk!

I'd say chalk it up to good old midwestern values. He grew up almost literally down the street ( maybe 5 miles down the street). I've umpired his birth town's high school but he went across the river to a Catholic high school. Remote chance I could have umpired a game of his along the way but I doubt it.

Dave Interesting I never knew there was one I'll have to look that up. Mike Funny man you are re: "( please leave the politics out of this )."You just couldn't do it could you? lol

Team pampers forget it I doubt your history books go back this far! I caught parts of a documentary on PBS on this the other night. I had no idea about how far reaching this was. Several things near where I used to live and near me now were built during that time and are still standing in beautiful shape - 1st class high school stadium seats prob 12K?, minor league ballpark ( both out of all brick). Starved Rock state park & lodge beautiful wooden structure plus the park itself. I had no idea just how many projects related to conservation. FDR had his A game on this one ( please leave the politics out of this ). I need to research this more as it is fascinating. FFI - AKA Matt Crum

Laugh how similar! you too are a glutton for punishment! 5 daughters here 27,23,22 & 2 x 10 1st grandchild - a boy ( YES finally ) is due in late Feb The 10yr olds still go to bed at 8:30 on school nights. If no school once in a while they ask to go to bed early! 9:30 o 10 on weekends The 27 is out of the house the 23 & 22 are getting close so are kind of in limbo.

Why the Yanks don't put one under Utley's chin is beyond me. Especially after all the beanings of A-rod. If it happens we might have the first(?) World Series brawl. The Angels should have done the same thing to cool him off. I don't have a horse in this race so don't get all bent out of shape over it. Just a thought for conversatio is all.