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I agree with J Francho Warmouth have three spines in the anal fin, rock bass have five to six spines in the anal fin.

Looks sort of like a buell spinner (picture I found online):

The one with the raised gill plate is not super spot. I think it is a generic lipless that is now sold by Cotton Cordell. In fact, I think at one time Cabela's sold it (scan from a 2005 catalog, below)

@TnRiver46, How did the fish like the beetle grub compared to the worms?

More info: warmouth have three spines in the anal fin, rock bass have five to six spines in the anal fin.

I think leadfreejigheads.com might have what you need.

@Noah_033008, I was looking at the East Bay Regional parks website and it states there are 8 types of game fish in Contra Loma. Might be fun to try to catch all 8 in one year.

@rboat, This might be what you had. It was called a Twirl Spin (I found it in a 1984 BPS catalog):

@rboat. I scanned this from a 1985 BPS catalog:

@mheichelbech, You need to over-analyze even more. In addition to line diameter, you also need to consider that the density of water changes with temperature and pressure, and that will also affect lure action and sound. Then there's the specific gravity of the water you are fishing (since no lake is "pure" water) that you need to consider . . . then you need to determine how uniform each of your lures are . . . then . . . But seriously, quite some time ago, I bought a book, Precision Trolling, which had lure dive charts, and I think they had multiple curves based on various line diameters. (I can't find the book, so I am going by memory.) Anyway, I just googled and apparently you have to buy an app for your phone for this data. Google "Precision Trolling Data". Is that the type of data you want?

@NYWayfarer, Wikipedia also lists the following in New York as having Lake Monsters: Black River, Hudson River, Onondaga Lake, Finger Lakes, and Schroon Lake. Ever fish at any of those?

Probably depends on the state's regulations. In California "Snagging is prohibited. Snagging is defined as impaling or attempting to impale a fish in any part of its body other than inside the mouth by use of a hook, hooks, gaff, or other mechanical implement." I assume tournaments have to abide by state regulations?

When I was a kid I was at Stage 2. Now with work and other personal responsibilities, I'm back at Stage 1.

Here's something I found on the internet: Iowa's American Indian Underwater Dragon Historically, Iowa was inhabited by various Algonquian Indian tribes, such as the Kickapoo, the Iowa River "Mahouea", Mascouten, Sauk and the Meskwaki (Fox). The Meskwaki (Fox) spoke of an aquatic dragon, commonly known as the Underwater Panther (Naamipeshiwa or Peshipeshiwa). Native-languages.org describes this dragon as "...A powerful mythological creature something like a cross between a cougar and a dragon. It is a dangerous monster who lives in deep water and causes men and women to drown." @scaleface Got any photos of this thing: It must be winter. LOL.

Mods: I wasn’t sure where to post this - please move to the appropriate forum. Have any of you fished in a body of water purported to contain a monster or creature? I have fished in two lakes that supposedly contain some sort of monster/creature. Lake Hodges and Lake Tahoe. I didn’t even know there is supposed to be a monster in either of them. Lake Hodges allegedly has a Loch Ness Monster-like creature, and Lake Tahoe apparently has a serpent-like creature. Wikipedia has a list of lakes that contain monsters if you are curious.

@Fishe, California has strict rules governing plants and animals. Please contact the California Department of Fish and Wildlife. You need an approved permit for any private stocking. Please don't assume that someone on a forum knows what is legal in your state.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to criticize, not trying to discourage anybody from replying.

@Happybeerbuzz Do not kill on sight. There is nothing written on the California Department of Fish and Wildlife website regarding this. The regulations only mention three fish that should be killed immediately: Northern Pike, White Bass, Grass Carp (in certain areas). See sections 5.51 (Northern Pike), 5.9 (White Bass), and 5.37 (Grass Carp) for details. Colorado pikeminnow is a protected species. (but probably no longer present in California, unless one ventures down the Colorado River) @TheBasslayer Northern pikeminnow is not in the area of California he is fishing.

I agree with @Finessegenics, probably a sacramento pikeminnow. It is native to California.

@Baitmaker, I like seeing stuff in the process of being created. Are you doing the eyes differently now than in the past?

So this is Fishmas, research your new friend Buy stuff that he uses, or the latest tackle trend A very merry Fishmas, buy these and buy those Buy jigs and some swimbaits, that’s how it goes And so happy Fishmas, power gear or finesse? I really don’t know, so I’ll make a guess What colors to buy, green pumpkin or red? I can’t make a decision, so I’ll buy him some Neds And so this is Fishmas, I’ve waited so long My desire for Fishmas, is really quite strong A very merry Fishmas and a happy new year Let's hope it's a good one with lots of new gear While buying for Fishmas, Bait Monkey did rear The stuff in your wallet, has just disappeared. (apologies to John Lennon)

I think it is an Okeechobee Special

@Bluebasser86, Congrats on your success. What color is that 6th Sense Quake? Is it the Thud version?