I am new to fishing with braid and heard you can't use some knots (clinch for example) that would be used or mono.. Is that true?

 

What knots do you guys use?

Palomar.

Palomar.

 

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When I tried straight braid to hook (wacky style), I tied a snell, and it worked great...but palomar works best, IMO.

Palomar. Wet it before you pull it tight, 

Palomar when tied direct, alberto to join it to a leader. I have never used it with any other knots so I don't know if they will slip or not.

If it isn't wetted what will happen, I just tied it to a jig without wetting it should I re-tie???

If it isn't wetted what will happen, I just tied it to a jig without wetting it should I re-tie???

 

Well, with braid, you don't *really* need to wet it, but the "wet" helps cinch the knot down.

 

Wetting a knot (imo) is more important with Fluro, copoly, etc. You can pull a braid knot slowly. Too fast there's plenty of friction which = heat.

 

So wetting a knot helps with lubrication, and friction.

Regarding braid, if you use a Palomar knot, consider tying a double Palomar. I've had a single Palomar come undone under a heavy load. A double Palomar has never failed me.

Just out of curiosity why doesn't a clinch knot work for braid.. (that's wht I have been told)

Regarding braid, if you use a Palomar knot, consider tying a double Palomar. I've had a single Palomar come undone under a heavy load. A double Palomar has never failed me.

How heavy of a load, were you pulling in a whale? I have lifted pretty good size logs with braid without a palomar slipping

I use a palomar knot for just about everything.  I will be using the snell knot when using the straight shank flipping hook this year too.

Just out of curiosity why doesn't a clinch knot work for braid.. (that's wht I have been told)

 

Well, if this makes sense, you want a knot that turns on itself like a palomar. A cinch knot, this sounds wrong, but is more of a straight line knot. It's just wraps around straight line, putting tag end thru the bottom loop doesn't really turn on itself in the same way a palomar does.

 

So the slickness of braid, causes slippage of such knots. Whereas braid that loops over itself doesn't.

 

And a double-palomar, while a much larger profile, is an extremely secure knot.

Well, if this makes sense, you want a knot that turns on itself like a palomar. A cinch knot, this sounds wrong, but is more of a straight line knot. It's just wraps around straight line, putting tag end thru the bottom loop doesn't really turn on itself in the same way a palomar does.

 

So the slickness of braid, causes slippage of such knots. Whereas braid that loops over itself doesn't.

 

And a double-palomar, while a much larger profile, is an extremely secure knot.

 

Thanks!

I tied palomar knots with line directly to lures or hooks. Albright or Alberto when joining braid to fluoro leaders, and then speed knots with leaders to lures. I really liked the albright knot for its super slim profile to pass through line guides with ease. Now, I don't use braid anymore though. No real need.

Palomar

braid to terminal = palamar

braid to leader = albright

I have dealt with tarpon up to 150lbs on both combos so I doubt I a bass will beat it.

however, with light braid go with a double palamar knot to terminal tackle without a leader

Another vote for the Palomar.

I use the improved clinch, 20# braid is my max inshore size, never give knot failure a thought.  For a bit of added security I'll double wrap the loop on the knot when I'm targeting some hard pulling fish like amberjack or cobia, still with the same 20# line.

How heavy of a load, were you pulling in a whale? I have lifted pretty good size logs with braid without a palomar slipping

 

Actually, I was fishing a small retention pond testing out a new color of a Ribbit and had just spooled up a new batch of 65lb PP braid (ie: it still had its coating on it) and tied a single palomar.  The frog got crushed, and the bass buried itself under a thick grass mat.  As I was reeling it in, the line went slack.  When I got it back to shore, the knot had simply come undone.  I had been using a single Palomar knot up to that point for over three years and never had one come undone.

 

Hey, if Dean Rojas of frogging fame swares by it as the only knot he uses on his frogs, that's good enough for me .

Palomar knot for everything except for flipping then I tie a snell knot on a straight shank hook. When I tie the palomar I go through the eye twice before making the the overhand knot.

I like playing with different knots. Structurally, many or even  most fishing knots have
many similarities. Someone else can tell me if this one is REALLY new, but I think it
is something you will find interesting.

The Big O Knot is designed for braided or heavy fluorocarbon line. A primary goal is to
provide 100% security when Big O sets the hook! I promise you this, if tied properly the
knot will not break.

This is a variation of the Pitzen Knot: http://www.orlandooutfitters.com/knots/knot.asp?id=12

The Big O Knot requires putting the tag end back through the eye of the hook one more
time, just as you would do with a Palomar Knot.  Bring the loop you created up next to
the main line. Then wrap the tag end four times around the outside of the main line and
the two lines of the loop. Start the wrapping from the bottom (nearest the hook) and
work up. Finish the knot by threading the tag through the newly created top loop, moisten
and tighten.


 

 

Uni, Palomar, Snell all work for terminal connections.  Line to line, Alberto, Uni to Uni, Triple Surgeon's work well.

Modified snell for plastics, San Diego jam or "Jimmy Houston knot" for anything else.

I use a palomar, never had a problem.

4 or 5 turn uni knot ,snap it real good to tighten it up.