Im looking to respool two baitcasters with 20lb line. BPS has 600 yards of p-line flouroclear for ~$15 and 175 yards of red label for a few dollars less. What are yalls recommendations? Ive used 12lb flouroclear in the past, and it was ok. I am attracted to the p-line because of the amount of line, but is the seaguar better?

Im looking to respool two baitcasters with 20lb line. BPS has 600 yards of p-line flouroclear for ~$15 and 175 yards of red label for a few dollars less. What are yalls recommendations? Ive used 12lb flouroclear in the past, and it was ok. I am attracted to the p-line because of the amount of line, but is the seaguar better?

My buddy swears by the red label for budget fluorocarbon so I would do it. Then again 600 yds is a lot. 

red label is decent budget fluoro but has awful abrasion resistance. you have lots of give and take at that end of the spectrum though. i've never used fluoroclear but i have used red label. i'd opt to try the fluoroclear. 

Like iabass said Red Label is not as abrasion resistant like higher end Seagaur however I have used both lines. The castability on flouroclear is awful every other cast I had a backlash. I have Red Label on all my reels now and love it.

I've used both, and hands-down prefer P-Line Floroclear's handling and otherwise, solid performance.

 

But take this into consideration, I only use the lines for leader material tied to a braid mainline. I didn't like the way any mono or copoly behaved as a mainline, hence switching to braid for both spinning and bait casting.

 

Thus, line behaves differently as a leader - there is only a small amount tied on....

 

I'm not saying Red Label is a bad line, it is just that I like Floroclear better. And for pure fluorocarbon, I now use XPS brand.

P-line Fluoroclear is a fluorocarbon coated line. It is not a true fluorocarbon. That is why it is easier to handle and cast.

yeah I was aware of it being coated. Im just trying to get the best most economical line. I have been using 12lb p-line flourclear since the summer and have about exhausted it. It performed ok but broke off fairly easy, big part of why I am looking to up my test, but I am still hesitant about the p-line. most of the fluorocarbons are $20+ which is slightly more than I want to spend. ive heard good things about seaguar but not anything about the specific grades.

red label is decent budget fluoro but has awful abrasion resistance.

Thats just flat out wrong, especially in 17+ 20lb test, it's not as good as Abraz-x, but it's better than Invis-x (as far as abrasion resistance goes) within the Seaguar line, and it's leaps and bound better than Vicious, Trilene 100%, , and Vanish. Which I have tried first hand and found them all to be worse than Red Label. I'll be the first to admit, that if I fished super abrasive conditions more often, I would probably opt for the Abraz-X, but to say Red Label is awful is pretty opinionated.

the red label is what i would go with, i've never tried the p-line but the seaguar red label has stood up good on the lakes i fish and they have lots of rock, i've only had one fish break me off.

Thats just flat out wrong, especially in 17+ 20lb test, it's not as good as Abraz-x, but it's better than Invis-x (as far as abrasion resistance goes) within the Seaguar line, and it's leaps and bound better than Vicious, Trilene 100%, , and Vanish. Which I have tried first hand and found them all to be worse than Red Label. I'll be the first to admit, that if I fished super abrasive conditions more often, I would probably opt for the Abraz-X, but to say Red Label is awful is pretty opinionated.

didn't say it was awful. i said it's abrasion resistance was awful. heck, i even said it was decent cheap fluoro.

 

I'll expand on my previous statement just for you.

 

Among the vast amount of fluorocarbons I've used, Seaguar Red Label is one of the few decent budget minded options for someone that wants to take a small step into the world of fluorocarbon. I've used all of Seaguars stateside fluorocarbons. Of which, Tatsu is the best I've used to date. I've used most fluoros you can find in your everyday tackle store including Sunline (FC sniper could arguably be the best midrange fluoro available), Vanish, 100% Trilene, Suffix (both old and new castable), Vicious and Stren. In my personal experiences with using fluorocarbons (and I use straight fluorocarbon for almost everything I am able to) Red Label had the worst abrasion resistance in the 15-20# range I've ever used. I was originally using it in 12# for squarebills and lipless cranks and felt it was okay at best so I bought a few spools on clearance a few years ago to try on jig/trig set ups and was gravely disappointed. Obviously, you're experiences may vary.

P-line is a good line, it is very strong for its diameter, I use to use floroclear in 12lb test but found it just a tad unmanageable without a line conditioner, I switched to CX and have been very satisfied.

didn't say it was awful. i said it's abrasion resistance was awful. heck, i even said it was decent cheap fluoro.

 

I'll expand on my previous statement just for you.

 

Among the vast amount of fluorocarbons I've used, Seaguar Red Label is one of the few decent budget minded options for someone that wants to take a small step into the world of fluorocarbon. I've used all of Seaguars stateside fluorocarbons. Of which, Tatsu is the best I've used to date. I've used most fluoros you can find in your everyday tackle store including Sunline (FC sniper could arguably be the best midrange fluoro available), Vanish, 100% Trilene, Suffix (both old and new castable), Vicious and Stren. In my personal experiences with using fluorocarbons (and I use straight fluorocarbon for almost everything I am able to) Red Label had the worst abrasion resistance in the 15-20# range I've ever used. I was originally using it in 12# for squarebills and lipless cranks and felt it was okay at best so I bought a few spools on clearance a few years ago to try on jig/trig set ups and was gravely disappointed. Obviously, you're experiences may vary.

good review

I actually agree with iabass8. I threw square bills and shallow cranks on 12 pound red label, and after pulling cranks threw a few brush piles, I was having problems with the line getting shredded. So bad in fact, that I broke off on a 35 - 40 yd cast when a bass slammed the crank at the beginning of my retrieve. Lost 35+ yards of fluoro from my spool. I did recover the fluoro and crankbait to stop it from polluting for anyone that is wondering.

I've used P-line CX as a main line and was satisfied at the time. I now use braid for mainline with 12lb red label as the leader. No complaints with either. You are going to have to decide if you want to take the step into flouro with red label or another budget conscious  flouro brand.

Try a spool of #12 Yo-Zuri Hybrid and see how you like it.  

Green is nearly invisible in gin clear water; Purple Smoke

is a better choice in stained water. Breaking strength is 19.5 lbs. 

 

 

 

 

Two totally different animals. If sensitivity especially on slack line is your main concern, go with red label. If abrasion resistance is of concern, go with fluoroclear. The fluoroclear can be a pain in the butt for management, and any fluoro can develop weak spots when fished around cover and structure. Two different natures. Personally, I think Yo Zuri hybrid is more what your looking for as an all purpose kinda line. Don't buy the other stuff just cause its on sale. Hybrid is still affordable

yeah all purpose is kind of my goal. ive got two baitcasters to fill and one is gonna be mostly for pitching and flipping while the other is mostly gonna be for crankbaits, spinnerbaits, t-rig, etc. I like the invisibility of fluorocarbon but I need something that handles well all around. I know there isn't gonna be one line that excels at everything. I haven't tried the P-line CX or Yo-zuri hybrid. Im afraid of the CX being like the flouroclear. The hybrid is intriguing, and at about $20 for 600 yards seems fairly economical

Shop around or wait for a sale. 600 yard Yo-zuri Hybrid spools are around $15, but often on sale

for $10.

yeah all purpose is kind of my goal. ive got two baitcasters to fill and one is gonna be mostly for pitching and flipping while the other is mostly gonna be for crankbaits, spinnerbaits, t-rig, etc. I like the invisibility of fluorocarbon but I need something that handles well all around. I know there isn't gonna be one line that excels at everything. I haven't tried the P-line CX or Yo-zuri hybrid. Im afraid of the CX being like the flouroclear. The hybrid is intriguing, and at about $20 for 600 yards seems fairly economical

Depending on where you look, 600yd spools of YZH can be had for ~$10 (eBay). I've got three 600yd spools of YZH in green. I've got a number of 300yd spools of Floroclear in mist green. They'll last me a long time as long as the puppy doesn't use them as chew toys.

So while I use both all the time, I tend to prefer Floroclear. Again, I use it strictly as a leader. Others complain Floroclear is awful. Not remotely my experience. I find it to be an excellent leader line...

Bottom line is, IMO, both YZH and Floroclear are excellent all-purpose lines.

Shop around or wait for a sale. 600 yard Yo-zuri Hybrid spools are around $15, but often on sale

for $10.

 

I would wait around but I have a new reel that should be here tomorrow, and another that needs fresh line.

 

Depending on where you look, 600yd spools of YZH can be had for ~$10 (eBay). I've got three 600yd spools of YZH in green. I've got a number of 300yd spools of Floroclear in mist green. They'll last me a long time as long as the puppy doesn't use them as chew toys.

So while I use both all the time, I tend to prefer Floroclear. Again, I use it strictly as a leader. Others complain Floroclear is awful. Not remotely my experience. I find it to be an excellent leader line...

Bottom line is, IMO, both YZH and Floroclear are excellent all-purpose lines.

ill be using whichever almost strictly. I don't run leaders. So I will be pulling off some flouroclear 12lb that I went through 300 yards of and havent been too happy with.

If I were you Id take Roadwarrior suggestion and try Yo Zuri.

Its in you budger and strong as h**l

I found its not as sensative as 100% floro for bottom contact baits, but its not bad either.

For moving baits it wouldn't matter.

Its cheap enough that if you didnt like it for either you wont have much invested.

IMHO

Mike

yeah I was thinking the yozuri. I was thinking 20lb for what will be my flipping stick and 12lb for my spinning and my lighter baitcast setup

http://www.overstockbait.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=yo+zuri&Search.x=-445&Search.y=-161  Pretty good deal on YZH line here. 

I haven't tried the Red Label yet, but Fluoroclear may be the single worst line I've used yet.  I hate posting negatively about it, because I like just about every other product P-Line makes, especially their CXX.

I haven't tried the Red Label yet, but Fluoroclear may be the single worst line I've used yet.  I hate posting negatively about it, because I like just about every other product P-Line makes, especially their CXX.

 

I bought flouroclear back in the summer because it seemed to be a budget alternative to fluorocarbon, but I have had more problems with it than good. some days I had no problems but just within the last week I lost a swimbait, an inline spinner, and jig on casts. Only reason I considered it again was the price I could get 600yds for.