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When I try it the fluorocarbon likes to wrap around the braid sometimes. I assume it's because I have too much tension on my braid mainline. Anybody else experience this?

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I think you are right.  I find that method of tying to be difficult, but I'm just starting with that knot, and maybe practice will make perfect.  
There is a video on the internet (search "how to tie FG knot video) that shows how to tie it without having to tension the braid.  You wrap about 4 times with each braid end, then work it to a tight condition, then do 4 more, follow with the half hitches.  That's the medthod I'm going to spend the most time with.  You may have to watch a number of videos to find the one I mean, but they all add understanding to how to tie the knot.

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That knot is a PIA, a Waste of time and Complete over Kill for Bass fishing.

 

I fish at night a ton and I can't imagine trying to tie that mother in the dark . . . 

 

 I just use a uni  to  uni.

 

Simple - Easy to tie & it works.

 

A-Jay

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I'm thinking now - what ever Aaron Martens is using to connect braid to FC leader is what I will use !!

Last I researched - A Mart was using a double uni ...

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Crazy Alberto a piece of cake!

I can tie it in the boat easily.

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That knot is a PIA, a Waste of time and Complete over Kill for Bass fishing.

 

I fish at night a ton and I can't imagine trying to tie that mother in the dark . . . 

 

 I just use a uni  to  uni.

 

Simple - Easy to tie & it works.

 

A-Jay

That about sums up my thoughts as well...

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That about sums up my thoughts as well...

Mine too.

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Double uni.  'Nuff said.

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I could never get the FG to hold. Been using the Alberto for years now and never had a failure.

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That knot is a PIA, a Waste of time and Complete over Kill for Bass fishing.

 

I fish at night a ton and I can't imagine trying to tie that mother in the dark . . . 

 

 I just use a uni  to  uni.

 

Simple - Easy to tie & it works.

 

A-Jay

Yup. Plenty of other proven knots that are a ton easier to tie than that contraption; uni-uni, blood, Albright...

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Double unis are very good easy to tie correctly, they are reliable, but too big to go through micros smoothly.  Regarding the original question (OK to get back to that?), I think the lighter your leader the more likely what you experience will happen.  The heavier the leader the more likely the braid will lay properly.  I think the FG shines when you are using a fairly heavy, stiff, leader.  For the lighter florocarbons the double uni will probably clear the micros well enough.  But not as smoothly as the FG.  By the way, not everyone agrees with the reliability accolades given to the Albright and Alberto. 

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... Complete over Kill for Bass fishing

Bass fishermen doing something overkill? Say it ain't so! Lol

40 rod and reel combos under the deck of a 21' 250hp boat with more GPS's, computers and bigger screens than it takes to launch the space shuttle?

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That knot is a PIA, a Waste of time and Complete over Kill for Bass fishing.

 

I fish at night a ton and I can't imagine trying to tie that mother in the dark . . . 

 

 I just use a uni  to  uni.

 

Simple - Easy to tie & it works.

 

A-Jay

 

 

My conclusion, as well, but I'll use the Albright and/or uni-uni.

 

The FG may work fine on heavier braid + heavier leader. But it

is still a PITA to tie.

 

I tried it on 10 and 15 pound PP with a 15 lb hybrid leader.

 

Yeah. No. Looked like a broken finger by the time I was done.

 

It held, but was absolutely not worth the effort at my desk and

most certainly not worth the effort to tie while out in my kayak.

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Bass fishermen doing something overkill? Say it ain't so! Lol

40 rod and reel combos under the deck of a 21' 250hp boat with more GPS's, computers and bigger screens than it takes to launch the space shuttle?

 

Only 40?  You must be new :)

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Only 40?  You must be new :)

 

:smiley:

 

A-Jay

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Bass fishermen doing something overkill? Say it ain't so! Lol

40 rod and reel combos under the deck of a 21' 250hp boat with more GPS's, computers and bigger screens than it takes to launch the space shuttle?

 

Good one.

 

I hear you but that bugger is taking to another lever.

 

I retie often - just because I can.

 

That plan would be out the window  - I'm one (maybe) and done rigth there.

 

More is not better in fact I'll offer that less is best.

 

And if you can't tie a knot - tie a lot . . . .

 

A-Jay

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:smiley:

A-Jay

Only 5 in there today! For both me and the wife!

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When I try it the fluorocarbon likes to wrap around the braid sometimes. I assume it's because I have too much tension on my braid mainline. Anybody else

experience this?

 

When I tried first tying it the "easy" way like that video on youtube said it was a mess.  I had the same issues as you.  Big Angry Fish TV does a great youtube video and it helped me a lot.  I respect Ajay and his views, but have to disagree.  Yes it does take a long time to tie, but the more you do it the easier it gets.  I used to use the modified albrecht and hated it.  Lost so many lures from the knot breaking or slipping and almost gave up on using fluoro because of it (was fine with mono).  I then tried the FG and can't be happier.  It goes through my micro guides great and is very strong.  Don't give up on it!

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That knot is a PIA, a Waste of time and Complete over Kill for Bass fishing.

For you, maybe...not for others...

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I use the FG only cause I need to for braid to high# fluoro for my big baits else they go flyin.. otherwise for normal fishing uni-uni is easy and just fine.. and yea I cant see myself field-tying the FG.. its too time consuming and needs to be done slowly carefully and right.

For the FG to properly keep its grip, you need to tension the braid..

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I tied 4 perfect Uni-Uni knots today in less time than it took to watch the FG how-to vid. I believe in 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it!'

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For you, maybe...not for others...

 

Fair enough.

 

In my defense, I signed the post A-Jay, not Others.

 

A-Jay (look at that, I did it again)

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No need to defend - I understood that.

 

I'd just hate to see someone skip at least trying the FG knot based on a declaration...I find it much easier to tie than the blood knot, or back to back uni, a lot stronger and that it goes through guides (especially micro guides) better...so it works for me.

 

...but keep in mind that most of my leaders are fairly heavy fluoro or wire as I live where most of the water is infested with large toothy fish )thank God!).  I think the FG ties much better on heavier line.

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I was able to tie the FG perfectly once.  The other 2 attempts were not successful.  I like the looks of it and it is a slimmer knot, but it is a pain.

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The point that seems to always be missed in regard to the FG.....the knot is much slimmer than the others.  And it goes through micro guides much easier.  Debate all you want about the difficulty in tying it ( I agree it's more difficult than others), but that's not the reason I'm trying a new knot in the first place.  The slim profile is the reason I'm giving it a shot.  And to me that's worth taking the time to learn the dang thing.  

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