Is 3.9oz heavy for a quality 7ft MFA spinning rod?

..no

That is quite light.

No, but It depends on how the weight was achieved as well. 

1 hour ago, Delaware Valley Tackle said:

No, but It depends on how the weight was achieved as well. 

Could  you explain . .

My St Croix Legend Elite 7'6" M/F is 3.9oz

28 minutes ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

My St Croix Legend Elite 7'6" M/F is 3.9oz

Oooooo....a new 2016 one?

1 hour ago, mrpao said:

Could  you explain . .

My point was just that light weight alone is not a sole indicator of build quality. Chances are any sub 4oz 7' Rod has decent components though. A Rod with an extra guide or two might perform better even with the extra grams of weight. The opposite is true as well. There are various grip designs and materials that  affect total weight. Getting the feel and durability you want may come at the cost of a little extra weight. It is possible to get the best of all and still be under 4oz just look at the whole package as well as weight or any one aspect for that matter. 

52 minutes ago, WI_Angler1989 said:

Oooooo....a new 2016 one?

no a few years old now.

Just now, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

no a few years old now.

An old Elite blows most rods out of the water anyway haha.

What does weight gotta do with quality ? 

Lighter rods tend to be higher quality.

It's not an absolute, and like anything else, you need to do your due diligence regarding individual maker quality.

...but within any high quality maker's line of rods, lighter should indicate higher quality.

5 hours ago, Further North said:

Lighter rods tend to be higher quality.

It's not an absolute, and like anything else, you need to do your due diligence regarding individual maker quality.

...but within any high quality maker's line of rods, lighter should indicate higher quality.

Nope, it doesn´t work that way. Lighter rods tend to have lighter materials but those lighter materials do not equal better quality.

18 hours ago, Raul said:

Nope, it doesn´t work that way. Lighter rods tend to have lighter materials but those lighter materials do not equal better quality.

That's why I put "tend" and "should" in italics.

If you look at a single maker's rods,the lighter ones tend to show up nearer the top end, and be more expensive, and be of higher quality.  Move to another manufacturer, and you start from scratch...don't compare weights across makers.

...also: swing weight will be different from actual weight.  Much harder to measure, but probably more important.

I will say it again: weight has absolutely nothing to do with quality.

Wasn't saying it did.

I said lighter rods tend to be higher quality within a given maker's range.

Lighter materials cost more, and tend to be used in a maker's higher end rods...since higher end rod buyers tend to expect higher quality, the rods tend to be built with greater attention to detail, fit and finish etc.

Are there exceptions?  Sure.  But in the big picture, it's a solid bet.  It's a tendency not a rock solid fact.

If you've got more detail to explain, please help me understand what you're getting at.

Yeah lightweight rods have less material so they are crap and made like junk

9 hours ago, Further North said:

Wasn't saying it did.

I said lighter rods tend to be higher quality within a given maker's range.

Lighter materials cost more, and tend to be used in a maker's higher end rods...since higher end rod buyers tend to expect higher quality, the rods tend to be built with greater attention to detail, fit and finish etc.

Are there exceptions?  Sure.  But in the big picture, it's a solid bet.  It's a tendency not a rock solid fact.

If you've got more detail to explain, please help me understand what you're getting at.

Still don't get it ? Rod weight has nothing to do with the quality of the components.

You know how they say with lures, size, profile, action then color?

With rods, action, balance, length, and then weight. A heavier rod with a better balance will feel lighter and fish better.

And its true that weight is no indicator of quality from a technical point of view, but it does end up being that way with most rod lines because of how they are marketed. Lighter is better for rods, so now they are silly light (with the corresponding warranty claims) and faster is better for reels, so now your 7.0 reel is too slow...

12 hours ago, Raul said:

Still don't get it ? Rod weight has nothing to do with the quality of the components.

Saying the same thing over and over does nothing to further anyone's understanding...maybe it makes you feel better?

...and you are wrong within the context of what I wrote...This says it perfectly:

5 hours ago, reason said:

You know how they say with lures, size, profile, action then color?

With rods, action, balance, length, and then weight. A heavier rod with a better balance will feel lighter and fish better.

And its true that weight is no indicator of quality from a technical point of view, but it does end up being that way with most rod lines because of how they are marketed. Lighter is better for rods, so now they are silly light (with the corresponding warranty claims) and faster is better for reels, so now your 7.0 reel is too slow...

 

17 hours ago, shaggydog said:

Yeah lightweight rods have less material so they are crap and made like junk

still trying to justify that ugly stick purchase?

Yea, my 3.2 oz. Croix SCV and 2.9 oz NFC IM are both serious pieces of s#!t.

6 minutes ago, S Hovanec said:

Yea, my 3.2 oz. Croix SCV and 2.9 oz NFC IM are both serious pieces of s#!t.

I will give them a good home.  I will PM you my address.

1 hour ago, Rick Howard said:

I will give them a good home.  I will PM you my address.

Why would you even want them?  If they are that light they must be crap.

 

 

On February 23, 2016 at 6:25 PM, shaggydog said:

Why would you even want them?  If they are that light they must be crap.

 

Free is my price range.  And I don't subscribe to any theories over what makes a good Rod or bad one.  If I like it than its a good Rod.