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Is it possible to throw a Ned rig with a baitcaster? If so what rod and reel would be suitable for this?

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Is it possible to throw a Ned rig with a baitcaster? If so what rod and reel would be suitable for this?

A true Ned Rig (1/16oz. head with the bait) would be tough unless you are using a Daiwa SV spool and/or a specific BFS rod and reel.  Spinning tackle is much easier overall unless you want to spend extra money on a very specific light line/presentation bait caster.  If you choose a heavier mushroom head, you defeat the purpose of the Ned Rig.  I hope this helps.

yes it is.

You want a reel with a super shallow spool, a cheap one would run you about $150
A light baitcast rod may be hard to find in the US but easy find in Japan, probably run you $100-150 for a decent one.

 

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I have a Diawa Pixy68 on a 6'10" *** ML/F.

 

It tosses Neds a mile.

 

I'm pretty sure any quality (and/or tuned) reel on a ML castine rod with some whip to it would work just as well.

I have my Steez SV TW on a 6'10" ML rod and can throw ned rigs all day long :)

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Spinning reels were made to cover techniques that use super light finesse baits.  Match a good light reel up with a super sensitive rod and you have a great combo.

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YES you can, but not for less money.  Be prepared to spend double for the same quality of setup.

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I use Shimano Curado 70 and Daiwa SV105 reels. I use Medium Light powered rods 6'9" & 7'6". With these combos throwing 1/20 TRD's is easily accomplished.

 

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Of course it is possible, any decent baitcaster can throw that sucker with the right line and the right rod.

I sure you can do it but a spinning rod with light line is so much better,

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The standard mushroom jig for a Ned Rig weighs 1/16 oz.

If you're using a Med-Hvy casting rod, you'll have to settle for 25-ft casts.

 

Roger

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Yes, it's possible with the right setup. For me that setup was a light power casting rod with a Daiwa Tdz that had a shallow bfs spool in it, and I had it spooled with #6 sunline mono. They weigh more than most people realize BUT the technique tends to work better with a spinning combo. 

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15 hours ago, RoLo said:

 

The standard mushroom jig for a Ned Rig weighs 1/16 oz.

If you're using a Med-Hvy casting rod, you'll have to settle for 25-ft casts.

 

Roger

My kids were wide-eyed and curious at me just now. I went out in the cold to find out what is possible. I used 1/20 trd a 50E reel with one green brake and 20 pound braid on a 7' MH/F Shimano Crucial1/4-1oz lure rated rod. Easily 3 times the amount highlighted.  These TRD's are small compact aero dense baits not airy like say shad raps

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I agree with all the other folks that it can be done but at a much higher cost than a comparable spinning rig. That little cigar bait will be pretty aerodynamic for the most part with a finesse casting reel and a L or ML rod. You can probably find a ML or L casting rod for a reasonable price (Major Craft makes some great rods in this size) but a reel will run you a bit more as you will need something in finesse form stock or able to accept a finesse spool.  

You can, but why spend 10× the amount of a spinning combo on a high end baitcaster?  I would recommend using a spinning rod instead, a cheap medium lite powered fast action rod between 6'-7'.  You don't need sensitivity for the ned, since you are using a no-feel retrieve.  I used to use an ml/f 6'10" Abu Garcia villain for my ned rod, but now I have switched over to a medium powered (it fishes like a medium lite) fast action 6'6" vortex.  I prefer the vortex over the villian (for the ned rig, not other techniques), even though the villain retails for $200 and the vortex only cost $13.

I use an alphas sv on a medium/light rod.  I prefer casting reels for everything except drop shots and live bait.

Yes you can.  

 

You can also use a lawn mower to cut a hedge, a high heel shoe to drive a nail and a fork to eat ice cream.

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3 hours ago, QUAKEnSHAKE said:

My kids were wide-eyed and curious at me just now. I went out in the cold to find out what is possible. I used 1/20 trd a 50E reel with one green brake and 20 pound braid on a 7' MH/F Shimano Crucial1/4-1oz lure rated rod. Easily 3 times the amount highlighted.  These TRD's are small compact areo dense baits not airy like say shad raps

 

Wow...that's a moonshot   :thumbsup_blue:  

 

Roger

Yes you can and there is nothing wrong with it.  Understand you need a baitcaster with a lightweight spool to effectively cast the light ned rig.  Those are pricey.  Then you'll want a ML rod with a fast or Xfast tip.  Again, that is not an entry level rod in the baitcasting world.  

 

While I don't have any "BFS" enthusiast gear, I do enjoy casting a 1/6oz Ned Rig on baitcasting gear, especially for smallmouth in deep water.  

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So converted to oz. for those of us use to thinking that way, then I should have no trouble casting a 1/16 head and TRD Worm as it weighs a bit more than the 3/16 oz. Shad Raps I can cast a pretty good distance on several rod/reel combos.  Always provided the 3/16 oz. Shad Rap in fact weighs 3/16 oz. and not something heavier.

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rippin-lips posted some weights in the other thread.  From what I see, the 1/16 Head and TRD Worm total .219 oz.  So a bit over 3/16 oz.  Provided a 3/16 oz. Shad Rap does weigh 3/16 oz. and not more, then there is no reason to spend 10 times the cost of a spinning combo to be able to cast that weight with a casting rod.  Might cost a bit more than a spinning outfit, but not a lot.  I bought a couple refurbished Carbonlites (the gold ones).  No problem throwing #5 Shad Raps (3/16 oz.)  $65 each.  I want to try my Black Max 1600C with that weight.  Have a feeling it will also cast that weight.  Cost: $33.33 each.

 

I will tell you up front that there are quite a few guys here that are much better than I am with a baitcast reel.   I was an old fart before ever using my first one.

1/16th with a medium light built by a custom builder. Shimano core 51. I throw it all day with no problem. You'd be surprised what a ned rig actually weighs once the plastics are on

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