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Hey all, I can’t decide whether to go with fluorocarbon or monofilament for my baitcaster setup. Sensitivity is really important to me, I like to feel everything and be able to set my hook once I feel something. Which leads me more towards fluorocarbon but all of them that I have tried seem to break off or coil very easily. I heard Tatsu was pretty good yet to try it though. Whereas mono I never really had an issue. Any thoughts or suggestions and what do you y’all use? Also never really been a braid guy, not my favorite. 

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What lb test FC are you trying to use and what brands have you tried?

Tom

 

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4 minutes ago, WRB said:

What lb test FC are you trying to use and what brands have you tried?

Tom

 

I’m looking for 10-12 lb test. I’ve used Seaguar invisX and the abrasion one there can’t quite recall the name but both of those didn’t end well. That’s why my next would be Tatsu I guess. I’ve been using sufix elite 8lb on my spinning setup without any problems. Even before I switched to sufix never had problems with Big game or any of those besides they knick and kinda break very easily and the sensitivity isn’t quite to what I want in those lines. 

16 minutes ago, haggard said:

How about copoly such as Yo Zuri hybrid? Best of both worlds?

 

I heard this was decent but also that the sensitivity wasn’t great for this line. 

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I haven't used any, but you might want to check out Sufix Advance.

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I use Sniper on all combo's except 2. 

 

I use mono to hang pictures on a wall. 

 

 

 

 

 

Mike

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20 minutes ago, new2BC4bass said:

I haven't used any, but you might want to check out Sufix Advance.

Heard this was a good co poly with great sensitivity. Will have to try it, if that’s the case I could use it on both my spinning and baitcaster and ditch the elite. 

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Sufix Advantage and Yo-Zuri Hybrid are both oversize dia line per pound test and offers nothing.

Sunline 10 or 12 lb Sniper is equal to Seagaur FC, Tatsu orcSniper isn't going to handle any differently then the other types of Seaguar FC.

You need to a line conditioner, KVD or TangleFree.

Consider Sunline Deifer Armillo Nylon 13 lb line.

Tom

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16 minutes ago, WRB said:

Sufix Adavantage and Yo-Zuri are oversize dia line per pound test and offers nothing.

Sunline 10 or 12 lb Sniper is equal to Seagaur FC, Tatsu isn't going to handle any differently then the other types of Seaguar FC.

You need to a line conditioner, KVD or TangleFree.

Tom

So are you suggesting I try sunline sniper fluoro? And I’ll check out the conditioner. 

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I edited my reply while you were responding. Sniper FC isn't noticeably different from Seagaur FC you have already tried. I treid Tatsu and didn't find it to be more sensitive FC, it has slightly better knot strength and a little less memory per lbs test. You pay a lot for a small performance improvement.

Sunline Armillo offers superior casting and knot strength per lbs test but not as sensitive as FC do to it's lighter specific gravity. It's all trade offs, but nothing is more aggravating then random knot failures.

TangleFree is a Punsher lure product and KVD is available everywhere.

Tom

 

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14 minutes ago, Jake51823 said:

So are you suggesting I try sunline sniper fluoro? And I’ll check out the conditioner. 

WRB was suggesting this: Consider Sunline Deifer Armillo Nylon 13 lb line.

 

 

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1 hour ago, WRB said:

Sunline Armillo offers superior casting and knot strength per lbs test but not as sensitive as FC do to it's lighter specific gravity. 

+1 for Armillo. I've really began to like that line.

 

OP, is there a reason you don't use/like braid? If sensitivity is important, there's no better line for this. It's also drama free when it comes to line management. I pretty much strictly use braid with fluoro or mono leaders, as many of the guys on here do.

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If I gotta walk around with a bottle of line conditioner in my back pocket just to make fluorocarbon manageable & castable I will stick with Big Game!

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For max sensitivity, braid. If you're in clear water, throw a 5ft fluoro leader on. 

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Nothing makes a bait more natural than old school Berkley Trilene XL 10 or 12lb mono. Not sexy, not cool but I’ve broke more off on 65lb power (like today) pro than the XL. 

Try both. 

Casting mono vs Fluoro is different btw. Once dialed in, you can ‘get after’ Fluoro and really send it out.

 

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I use InvisX with L&L and have no issues. The only time I have coils is when I have to peel deep down into the spool because I ended up with a professional overrun. I used Hybrid for a bid but straight flouro is way more sensitive for me. I would just make sure you condition the line and give Sniper a try, I have heard good things about it. 

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I have been using a copolymer line and I am very happy with it.

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Sufix Advance if you don't like braid.

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8 hours ago, ike8120 said:

I have been using a copolymer line and I am very happy with it.

What co poly do you use? I’ve heard good things about yo Zuri and sufix advance. 

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I know you said you don't like braid, but you didn't say why. I'm using 40lb Super8SlickV2 on my Bantam with a 10ft 14lb fluoro leader (Sunline Sniper) and it casts like a dream and doesn't dig into the spool due to the larger line diameter. I spooled up the Bantam using 14lb Sunline Sniper when I got it, and even though I was still breaking in the reel and getting it tuned, I got about 10 casts in, and on that 10th cast (or whatever one it was), I got a backlash so bad I could not get it out. The fluoro was popping off the reel, so coiled up. I spent 15 minutes trying to get it out, and finally just started cutting. I swear I lost almost half of the spool from that. I went home not long after that and spooled up the reel with the Super8Slick and have had a much better time. I've still had a few backlashes as I further tune the reel and get used to it, but I have always succeeded at getting them out within 2-3 mins for the worst ones. The slick line really helps. I use 40lb Sufix 832 on my SLX and have also had no issues getting backlashes out quickly, and it also casts nicely with a long 14lb Sunline Sniper leader as well. Safe to say, I think it will be a very long time before I ever consider trying straight fluoro again. Tying a double uni knot doesn't take too long, and you get better hook sets and sensitivity with braid, not to mention it makes getting backlashes out so much easier. There's no contest for me.

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sufix siege is a quality mono.  havent tried advance yet

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7 hours ago, bwjay said:

I know you said you don't like braid, but you didn't say why. I'm using 40lb Super8SlickV2 on my Bantam with a 10ft 14lb fluoro leader (Sunline Sniper) and it casts like a dream and doesn't dig into the spool due to the larger line diameter. I spooled up the Bantam using 14lb Sunline Sniper when I got it, and even though I was still breaking in the reel and getting it tuned, I got about 10 casts in, and on that 10th cast (or whatever one it was), I got a backlash so bad I could not get it out. The fluoro was popping off the reel, so coiled up. I spent 15 minutes trying to get it out, and finally just started cutting. I swear I lost almost half of the spool from that. I went home not long after that and spooled up the reel with the Super8Slick and have had a much better time. I've still had a few backlashes as I further tune the reel and get used to it, but I have always succeeded at getting them out within 2-3 mins for the worst ones. The slick line really helps. I use 40lb Sufix 832 on my SLX and have also had no issues getting backlashes out quickly, and it also casts nicely with a long 14lb Sunline Sniper leader as well. Safe to say, I think it will be a very long time before I ever consider trying straight fluoro again. Tying a double uni knot doesn't take too long, and you get better hook sets and sensitivity with braid, not to mention it makes getting backlashes out so much easier. There's no contest for me.

Same experience with fc for me too. Those backlashes were so bad that what’s left of it now , on my reels, is just backing so I don’t have to spoil up 2-300 yards of braid. I will NEVER use anything but braid and have been using it for ten years. 

 

One can can really hammer a big fish that smashes a spook way out there at the end of a long cast. 

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41 minutes ago, CrankFate said:

10 or 15lb Braid.

On a bait caster is really bad advice

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