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  • Super User

So has anybody used it ? Is it 8 strand ? Seeing ads all over the place for it.

  • Super User

I dunno about the standard, but they do make what they call '8X' - so I'm thinking the standard is 4-carrier.

 

https://beyondbraid.com/collections/braided-line

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I see they make a orange high vis 8 strand braid in 2000 yds for $99.00.

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Just now, ike8120 said:

KK makes an 8X and 13X braid.

So does Sufix - 832 and 131

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Just now, ike8120 said:

KK makes an 8X and 13X braid.

Beyond Braid has made in USA label. KK is Chinese made if I'm not mistaken. I'll give my money to the USA first.

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5 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

Beyond Braid has made in USA label. KK is Chinese made if I'm not mistaken. I'll give my money to the USA first.

KK 4 carrier is US made actually

 

Sufix is Taiwan and China made even though owned by Rapala US.

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8 minutes ago, dodgeguy said:

Beyond Braid has made in USA label. KK is Chinese made if I'm not mistaken. I'll give my money to the USA first.

I see no evidence that it is made in the USA.  They have a flag on the box that says USA company and they brag about it being shipped from Miami but they never say where it is made.  If it was made in the US I think they would brag about that to.  Am I missing something?

11 minutes ago, MN Fisher said:

KK 4 carrier is US made actually

Yep, it's Spectra too I believe, like Power Pro.  I've used the KK Kast Pro and thought it was pretty decent, but it bleeds like a stuck pig.

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I have heard enough bad things about it to steer clear of it but after doing some looking on line, I would run away instead.  

 

Just one note..... It says "US Company" on the box.  This is a clear BS indicator.  If it was "Made in the USA", they would clearly state that instead.

 

I would stick with Sufix, PowerPro, etc... 

1 hour ago, MN Fisher said:

KK 4 carrier is US made actually

 

Sufix is Taiwan and China made even though owned by Rapala US.

The 13X I have is made in Taiwan

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Wow !!!!! Guess I'm staying with Sufix 832.

That "USA Company" is pretty funny. Looks like something you'd see in a translated description from Korean or Chinese on Amazon. "You buy now USA company big fun!"

I don't trust anything prefixed with "beyond".... If you know you know...

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Just now, TroxBox said:

I don't trust anything prefixed with "beyond".... If you know you know...

Oh come on, Lovecraft is good bed-time stories. :devil3:

"It's a Kentucky Fried Miracle!"

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20 hours ago, dodgeguy said:

Wow !!!!! Guess I'm staying with Sufix 832.

 

If you are looking to try something different,  I have had good luck with Sunline Xplasma.  It nothing magical,  it's braid. It is better than 832 and 832 is good line. The color fades but slowly.  It doesn't show a lot of wear and it cast light lures well. Knot strength is just the same as other lines. I am getting ready to change mine after two years of use just because the color is faded. I do like to use leader for this line with finesse stuff but not for topwater.  

On 1/9/2022 at 8:24 AM, dodgeguy said:

Beyond Braid has made in USA label. KK is Chinese made if I'm not mistaken. I'll give my money to the USA first.

If you want braid made in USA, try Cortland braid.  It is made in Cortland,NY

  • 10 months later...

I bought a 300 yd filler spool of 30 lb, BEFORE I read all the horrible reviews!

Lesson learned.

Will just have to see for myself and will post if I ever receive it.

  • Super User

I have purchased their 4 strand twice, was delivered quickly. lt is a little noisy in the guides, but  all 4's are, and it performs well.  I have not yet tried their 8 strand.  Yes, 4x is 4 strand, 8x is 8 strand.  Look at the schematics on their site.  

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1 hour ago, Ski said:

I bought a 300 yd filler spool of 30 lb, BEFORE I read all the horrible reviews!

Lesson learned.

Will just have to see for myself and will post if I ever receive it.

Ski, you're in Florida, and Florida Fishing Products is, too. 

I'm fairly sure their Distance Braid is equivalent to Varivas - it's the first X-braid I tried, and it's still fishing. 

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Here's the skinny on Japanese X-braids - they're all made by Izanas in Japan

They all use Izanas UHS center strand, which is 80% of the line strength. 

They use extra-fine outer fibers, which are there for toughness and abrasion resistance, and extra-tight weave. 

The whole thing is fused when an FEP (telfon-base) coating is applied.  They've been doing this since 2018, and YGK Oddport was the first X-braid. 

The Japanese X-braids are made the same, with some differences in fibers (G-Soul adds fluorocarbon outer fibers to increase density), and the FEP coating compositions vary from rubbery to hard.  The soft coatings are better for spinning, and the hard coatings better for casting to resist line dig. 

Photo below borrowed from Izanas Applications web page. 

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Compared to all the braids discussed previously on this thread, X-braid doubles the strength for the same diameter. 

On 11/21/2022 at 7:20 AM, Ski said:

I bought a 300 yd filler spool of 30 lb, BEFORE I read all the horrible reviews!

Lesson learned.

Will just have to see for myself and will post if I ever receive it.

The spool arrived in less then 5 days- Speedy shipping.

I pool tested the line after spooling a Shimano Curado.. I tied on a worm hook on and had a 5 Lb. weight hooked to it in the pool. I went to the other end of pool 28 Ft. Using my usual drag setting "snug" I aggressively set the hook. Line held. Then I locked down the drag and again set the hook only to have the weight slide in the pool. Line held up fine. Despite all the negative comments I have found this spool of 30 lb test to be adequate for me to take fishing and give it a REEL test.

   

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Any updates ? The line appears to be getting much better reviews now. They also make a no fade version.

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