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Looking at the daiwa tatula xt crankbait fiberglass rod ..or would the regular xt 7'3 mh/f be good for chatterbaits, spinnerbaits, and swim jigs? 

I personally much prefer a fast action rod for those 3 baits. Brian. 

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Jigs are definitely Fast for me - but I prefer a Mod-Fast for spinners/chatters. Current rod for those is a Fury 705CB where-as I've got a Mojo 7'1" MH/F for jigs/T-Rigs

I've been throwing a 5/0 - 1/4 oz Flashy Swimmer underspin (with a 4.8" Fat Swing Impact that weighs right at 0.7 ounces) with my 7'3" Daiwa Kage "All Around" rated at MH/F. They make a similar rod in the (non-XT) Tatula line. I would call it just a bit on the stout side as it is rated (fairly IMHO) for lure weights from 1/4 to 1 ounce, and I use it with 15 lb Big Game.

 

I can't imagine burying that 5/0 hook or horse them out of brush with a Mod-F rod with the 15 lb Big Game. If you're using braid or maybe fluorocarbon you could still bury it, but I wouldn't want to try that with monofilament.

 

I suggest taking the whole system (rod, reel, line, and lures) into consideration. 

It's just my opinion, but I look at a swim jig as a spinnerbait or chatterbait without blades. I started noticing that most spinnerbait rods tend to be MH Mod Fast and I've liked how they fish. I rarely lose one on them.

 

I currently fish my bladed jigs on a Dobyns 735 cb glass or 736 cb glass. I have my spinnerbaits on an older Fenwick Elitetech Smallmouth MHMF casting or Dobyns Fury 705cb and my swim jigs on Dobyns Sierra 734 rods.

 

All of which are rated Mod-Fast or are a little slower than a typical "Fast" action rod (Sierra). All I can say is they work pretty well for me.

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Jacob Wheeler is not my favorite fisherman, but his 7'3" MH/MF is the most perfect spinnerbait/vibrating jig rods I've ever held in my hand.  I would not fish a swim jig with that rod but the thread shows that opinions vary.  I

The Daiwa DX Type-H Glass Reaction Casting Rod has been chucking my chatterbaits since back when I didn't have faith in a chatterbait, and it still does today.  I also throw spinnerbaits on them and while I haven't built up much confidence in swimjigs, it's even caught a fish or five on those for me as well.

 

Awesome rod.  I recommend it.

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I'd just like to add to the swim jig discussion. I experimented between a fast action rod and a moderate fast action rod for swim jigs. What I found is that whenever I was fishing a swim jig in thicker cover, I tended to hook and land more fish on a fast. When I was fishing in open water, the moderate fast action got the nod. Both are good, but I saw a marked difference when I switched to the fast in cover

 

Spinnerbaits for whatever reason are different for me. I am a moderate fast 24/7/365 for those and I don't tend to lose fish

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Some 7'3 MH F are fairly close to a modF, the tip isnt as light so it may not be as good for trebles, but for single hook moving baits like swimjig spinnerbaits/chatterbaits the action is good.

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Which manufacturer is this from?

It honestly depends on the rod series/model as to whether a MH/F will do well IMO.  The Tatula I have (6'6"M/Fast) is a little too stiff for jerkbait duty, so I had to find another use for it.  I bet the Tatula MH/F casting rods have stiffer blanks, and not what I'd want for single hook moving baits.  Maybe soneone who owns one will correct me. I like an MBR style MH/F for  spinner/chatter & paddletails.  Basically a fast rod with some tip.  The Daiwa rods listed as 'regular' tapered rods are closer to an MBR style rod than they are to a fiberglass style crankin' rod.

 

Depends what you like and are used to...I hate the feel of spinnerbaits and chatterbaits on a "blade bait" rod. I prefer the crisp feel of a fast action.

Sorry, it's Duckett.  I bought a Duckett Terex years ago.  I found that it was perfect for those techniques and I intended to buy a couple more...but of course they stopped making them.  I called Duckett and one of their guys asked me to describe what I wanted in a rod for this purpose.  I did and he said, "That is almost word for word what Jacob Wheeler told us he wanted".  I bought one of the MH/MF and it's just perfect.  I will pick up a couple more. 

@Ashboom and @Jar11591 you might take a look at the sale thread.  Someone just posted about a 15-20% sale at a site.  I got on and found the Duckett Jacob Wheeler rod I mentioned with a buy one get one.  I've got two new ones on the way. 

Careful with Duckett rods...look at them funny and they snap. I have seen too many of them break on guys...

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In the Daiwa lineup I would probably look for a MH Reg for those techniques. I like and use a Daiwa Rebellion glass rod for chatterbaits but I don't love it for spinnerbaits and definitely not swim jigs.

 

I have an OG Tatula in 7'2" MH R that is great for all those techniques. It has enough power and a nice mod-fast action that isn't too soft. This is an older rod but I assume the powers and actions of the newer rods are still similar.

 

There are some MH R Tatula Elite rods from the last series on sale at many places, I would look for one of those.

I prefer glass/composite with chatterbaits/spinnerbaits and depending on the rod series/line/application/type of swim jig, prefer med/hvy-hvy graphite rods for swim jigs. Used to throw a lot of chatterbaits on the old tatula xt glass medium 7'. Handled a couple 40" chatterbait muskie and pike no problem. 

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