When I get wind-knots, I will sometimes cut the line, and retie line to line in the middle of the line, instead of throwing away a bunch of good line after the knot. However, after I reel up the line and make a few casts, the knot protrudes on the spool and catches on line above it during the cast. As a result, my cast will catch on the line mid-cast, and bounce back towards me.

 

What are some small line-to-line knots I can tie, to reduce this? Any other tricks? Does it matter the line type (mono vs braid?)

I run my backer a little lower so I have enough mainline to deal with a couple of break offs. 

 

I use the uni to uni knot which is rather large, but I hear there are others that are smaller.

 

Alberto knot small and reliable. Also easy to tie when on a boat.

9 minutes ago, GaryH said:

Alberto knot small and reliable. Also east to tie when on a boat.

I second this. Alberto is a flat skinny knot. The braid wraps around the flourocarbon and keeps the flourocarbon protected when zipping through the guides.

 

It’s easy enough to tie on a boat, but unfortunately not easier than the uni to uni in my opinion. I had too many uni to uni issues, so I had to switch. 

I've been rolling allbright knots that shoot through fly rod snake guides for 40 years. Improved allbright is a  no brainer for me.   

As much of a fan I am of the Alberto, I think the FG is a better knot to have in the spool.  Its really easy for that line coming off the spool to grab an Alberto, especially if the tag isnt cut flush to the knot.  Once the line grabs it, it either stops the cast mid flight, or pulls the knot off the spool prematurely and creates what's called a blow by knot.  The FG is longer, but its half the dia and the only tag is braid which wont catch line like the mono or FC tag in the Alberto.

I would recommend keeping the knot outside of the spool and below the stripper guide (1st guide) when casting.  With a 7' rod that should give you at least 8' of leader.  If you're fishing gin clear water or need an extra long leader to aid in landing fish, there are some things you can do to the Alberto to minimize stoppages and blow bys. 

When you finish the Alberto, hitch the tag through the loop 2 more times.  That secures the knot from slipping.

Use a pair of good clippers so you can cut the tag to the knot without damaging it.  The longer the tag the bigger the potential headache.

Use a knot glue or UV cement to round the edges of the knot.

8 minutes ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

As much of a fan I am of the Alberto, I think the FG is a better knot to have in the spool.  Its really easy for that line coming off the spool to grab an Alberto, especially if the tag isnt cut flush to the knot.  Once the line grabs it, it either stops the cast mid flight, or pulls the knot off the spool prematurely and creates what's called a blow by knot.  The FG is longer, but its half the dia and the only tag is braid which wont catch line like the mono or FC tag in the Alberto.

I would recommend keeping the knot outside of the spool and below the stripper guide (1st guide) when casting.  With a 7' rod that should give you at least 8' of leader.  If you're fishing gin clear water or need an extra long leader to aid in landing fish, there are some things you can do to the Alberto to minimize stoppages and blow bys. 

When you finish the Alberto, hitch the tag through the loop 2 more times.  That secures the knot from slipping.

Use a pair of good clippers so you can cut the tag to the knot without damaging it.  The longer the tag the bigger the potential headache.

Use a knot glue or UV cement to round the edges of the knot.

"When you finish the Alberto, hitch the tag through the loop 2 more times. " Can you elaborate on this part? You mean like 2 half-hitches?

10 minutes ago, GetFishorDieTryin said:

As much of a fan I am of the Alberto, I think the FG is a better knot to have in the spool.  Its really easy for that line coming off the spool to grab an Alberto, especially if the tag isnt cut flush to the knot.  Once the line grabs it, it either stops the cast mid flight, or pulls the knot off the spool prematurely and creates what's called a blow by knot.  The FG is longer, but its half the dia and the only tag is braid which wont catch line like the mono or FC tag in the Alberto.

I would recommend keeping the knot outside of the spool and below the stripper guide (1st guide) when casting.  With a 7' rod that should give you at least 8' of leader.  If you're fishing gin clear water or need an extra long leader to aid in landing fish, there are some things you can do to the Alberto to minimize stoppages and blow bys. 

When you finish the Alberto, hitch the tag through the loop 2 more times.  That secures the knot from slipping.

Use a pair of good clippers so you can cut the tag to the knot without damaging it.  The longer the tag the bigger the potential headache.

Use a knot glue or UV cement to round the edges of the knot.

Pulling the Alberto super tight and cutting the tag end so it is basically non-existent is crucial, but really easy to do.
 

After a few steps of a fg knot tutorial, I said ,”nope, not for me.” LOL

2 minutes ago, stk44 said:

Pulling the Alberto super tight and cutting the tag end so it is basically non-existent is crucial, but really easy to do.
 

After a few steps of a fg knot tutorial, I said ,”nope, not for me.” LOL

You would think so, but when you search "how to tie crazy alberto knot" on YT.  If there is a closeup of the finished knot, take a hard look at it.  There are a surprising number of channels that have goofed the knot up and or failed to seat the knot correctly.  There shouldn't be any gaps, the weave should be even, there should only be the very top of the bend of FC showing and the color of the braid in the weave should darken when compared to the rest of the line.  If you're knot has 1 of those problems it doesnt matter how well you trim the braid, its going to fail.

Trimming it isnt hard, if you have the right tool for the job.  Its much harder with dikes or scissors to cut it near flush.

So what do you cut it with?

@jbrew73 Nail clippers work best for me.

 

scott

Alberto, FG, and Albright are the smaller ones depending on the line you’re tying.  If you’re fishing straight mono, I’d just cut it and be done.  Deal with the bit less line for that trip and respool when you get home.  Mono is cheap and if you’re backlashing regularly you should be using cheap stuff.  If you’re using braid and getting a lot of backlashes, work on picking them without cutting. I wouldn’t use fluoro if you’re backlashing a bunch.  Kinks in fluoro are weak points.  

1 hour ago, jbrew73 said:

So what do you cut it with?

I use small kvd (mustad?) scissors which works really well. 

4 hours ago, CoryRobertLowe said:

"When you finish the Alberto, hitch the tag through the loop 2 more times. " Can you elaborate on this part? You mean like 2 half-hitches?

You pretty much got it.  When finishing the knot, you weave the tag through the loop and instead of tightening you wrap it 2 additional times around that side of the loop.  Make sure the tag end is exiting the loop the same way the mainline is coming in and tighten the knot evenly.

Double-uni knot works great to fix wind knots in light weight braid, which is the only line I ever get wind knots in. What type and weight of line are you having issues with? 

2 hours ago, jbrew73 said:

So what do you cut it with?

A good pair of nail clippers 

Is you're fishing good braid with UHMWPE center strand, anything other than fine braid scissors will only chew on it, and especially won't cut the center strand.

26 minutes ago, JackstrawIII said:

Double-uni knot works great to fix wind knots in light weight braid, which is the only line I ever get wind knots in. What type and weight of line are you having issues with? 

Braid and mono, and I was using the double-uni. I will try some of the other knots mentioned here.

For 10, 15, 20lb braid to 8, 10, 12 lb leader I tie the double blood knot. I use it on baitcasting and spinning reels. It is so much easier to tie than the FG, I tie it in less than a minute and never had one fail. It's a great knot worth checking out, PM me if you're interested I can give you a couple tips for it.

9 hours ago, CoryRobertLowe said:

Braid and mono, and I was using the double-uni. I will try some of the other knots mentioned here.

I'm a huge fan of the FG knot and use it on most of my setups to attach braid mainline to a leader (mono or fluoro). With that said, it would not be a good option to splice together two lines of the same type. Good luck with your tinkering! 

I started to use the Red Phllips Knot great for going through the micro guides.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=red+phillips+knot&type=E211US105G0#id=1&vid=6196f4e2a15af065ef7fe7dbee23c9eb&action=view

Who's using Daiwa TWS line guide with any of these leader knots? 

 

I basically just stopped using leader because of it

when i was fishing Brazil, i had brand new toenail clippers in my bag.  i heard clipping and found my friend in the back of the boat clipping his janky toenails.  i asked, "you brought nail clippers?"

 

he said, "nope.  found them in your bag"

 

ARGGG!

 

about 20 minutes later, the Brazil guide was clipping all his nails.  hahaha...a bunch of savages.  i let the guide keep them.  which made him way happier than i imagined a pair of Tweezer-Man clippers should make someone.    

I run braid main line on everything, it’s soft so when I have to mend it the tag ends don’t cause me much grief. 
 

I’ve been wading a lot and carry very little, just this last weekend I had to cut out a knot and splice the remaining together..

 

I exclusively use the blood knot for line to line connection.. I learned my technique from this video and can tie it in a hurricane if I had to.