7 hours ago, HawkeyeSmallie said:

Isn't Brett Hite the king?

 

Why not just look at the specs on his Evergreen rod?

 

Heavy moderate I believe.

 

Anyone have it?

I have the Super Combat stick. It's great. And it's my fifth (6th?) bladed jig rod, hunting for the perfect one. If your use case is covering water, using 1/2oz to 1.25 oz chatterbaits with zako-weight trailer, I haven't found anything better. It reminds me a good bit of a deep cranking rod.

I thought I'd hate the glass because it would deaden the rod but ... nah it's good.

 

For shorter range/target/lighter stuff the Kistler Nitranium has it beat - it's much lighter and much shorter. 

 

In both cases they pin fish far better than a fast rod. My complaint, in both cases, is the action that makes fish pinned also makes it tough to clear heavy grass off of it. Couple of busted casts vs a couple of lost fish is an easy trade. 

 

I can't prove it, but I do think there's something to the difference in how a ripped bait accelerates on these rods to trigger a bite. 

 

Oh the rod says mod-slow which I don't believe at all. In fact the Hook Up has an image showing it as an "R" action, which is Daiwa's all-around action(pretty sure daiwa makes these for evergreen), and that feels much more right to me. 

 

 

Top is a Dobyns Champ XP H/F Glass, bottom is the combat stick which has the same action as the super combat stick. 

Video is at Omnia.

9 hours ago, HawkeyeSmallie said:

Isn't Brett Hite the king?

 

Why not just look at the specs on his Evergreen rod?

 

Heavy moderate I believe.

 

Anyone have it?

Yes I own it. The philosophy is the same for a bladed jig as for a crankbait. Fish eat the bait deeper due to tip design parameters. Gets into the power very quickly which afford all the power needed for a hard hook set 

 

Other rods will work also. It’s finding that one that satisfies the insatiable desire that we clearly all share on rods and reels, which incidentally manufacturers love. I’ll add one last thought, most of us are ordering via web orders and that makes it really hard to be right the first time. 

5 hours ago, txchaser said:

Couple of busted casts vs a couple of lost fish is an easy trade.

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3 hours ago, F14A-B said:

finding that one...

3 hours ago, F14A-B said:

...manufacturers love

💯 

 

3 hours ago, F14A-B said:

... Web orders... makes it really hard to be right the first time.

💯 

5 hours ago, txchaser said:

Top is... bottom

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13 hours ago, MN Fisher said:

Snobs

Couldn't spell "snobs" so used "aficionados."  Couldn't spell "aficionados" either. 🙂

8 hours ago, txchaser said:

I have the Super Combat stick. It's great. And it's my fifth (6th?) bladed jig rod, hunting for the perfect one. If your use case is covering water, using 1/2oz to 1.25 oz chatterbaits with zako-weight trailer, I haven't found anything better. It reminds me a good bit of a deep cranking rod.

I thought I'd hate the glass because it would deaden the rod but ... nah it's good.

 

For shorter range/target/lighter stuff the Kistler Nitranium has it beat - it's much lighter and much shorter. 

 

In both cases they pin fish far better than a fast rod. My complaint, in both cases, is the action that makes fish pinned also makes it tough to clear heavy grass off of it. Couple of busted casts vs a couple of lost fish is an easy trade. 

 

I can't prove it, but I do think there's something to the difference in how a ripped bait accelerates on these rods to trigger a bite. 

 

Oh the rod says mod-slow which I don't believe at all. In fact the Hook Up has an image showing it as an "R" action, which is Daiwa's all-around action(pretty sure daiwa makes these for evergreen), and that feels much more right to me. 

 

 

Regular action is a slow action and great for moving baits.

16 hours ago, MickD said:

fishermen overthink everything

we already do that.. 

14 hours ago, king fisher said:

Depends on the make of rod, and your style.  Try a few rods, and actions until you find the one that works the best for you.  I can walk the dog with almost any rod, but when I use my favorite the walk is natural and easy, instead of a struggle, and yes that rod works well for bladed jigs too.

St Croix MH Moderate Fast vs Fast

9 minutes ago, ohioguy25 said:

St Croix MH Moderate Fast vs Fast

I don't have either rod, but I would guess the Moderate Fast.

7 minutes ago, king fisher said:

I don't have either rod, but I would guess the Moderate Fast.

Moderate fast gives you more control of a walking bait than fast? Now I’m confused.

54 minutes ago, ohioguy25 said:

Moderate fast gives you more control of a walking bait than fast? Now I’m confused.

There are a lot of opinions on these forums, but very few facts.  It is my opinion that the proper rod for good control of walking baits has just the right tip flexibility to give a little during the twitches.  Whether this is about action rather than power doesn't seem logical.  But it is just another opinion.  I would expect that line stretch would get into it too. 

 

Keep in mind that power descriptions and action descriptions are approximations varying greatly between not only brands but between different blanks within the same brand.  The only way this whole thing could be resolved would be if objective CCS numbers were known and discussed relative to performance of the rods.  Even then there would likely be different opinions of what was good or not so good.  The tip flex (another word for stiffness or power) of moderate and fast action rods and even extra fast can be exactly the same for rods of different overall powers.   

 

Find something that works for you and use the ones that don't work for other techniques. 

15 hours ago, Bigbox99 said:

Regular action is a slow action and great for moving baits.

Ah that's interesting - St Croix legend mod/f feels about the same to me in the other daiwa 'R' actions.

For heavy moving baits like a big spinnerbait or a bladed jig, I like a mh/f.  

Such a topical question, as I boated two bass and lost three on a bladed jig this morning, and one would have been my PB without a doubt. I have been using a MF but I think I’m either going to switch to a MHF, or more likely a MHMF. I’m losing them when they jump. 
 

The big one today really crushed me. Jumped twice but the third jump was close to the boat and it was gone. My first guess was 6-7, but I think it was more likely 7-8. Hook was sharp and it felt like my hookset was good. I’m thinking the MHMF will do a better job of keeping the fish on. 
 

Regardless. I will say this has been my best year with a bladed jig by far. I’ve always been more of a Texas rig angler, but I’m getting hooked on chatterbaits. 

@BrianMDTX that's a hit brother, I definitely recommend grabbing a mhmf

 

Were you fighting with you rod tip down towards the water? 

10 hours ago, BrianMDTX said:

Such a topical question, as I boated two bass and lost three on a bladed jig this morning, and one would have been my PB without a doubt. I have been using a MF but I think I’m either going to switch to a MHF, or more likely a MHMF. I’m losing them when they jump. 
 

The big one today really crushed me. Jumped twice but the third jump was close to the boat and it was gone. My first guess was 6-7, but I think it was more likely 7-8. Hook was sharp and it felt like my hookset was good. I’m thinking the MHMF will do a better job of keeping the fish on. 
 

Regardless. I will say this has been my best year with a bladed jig by far. I’ve always been more of a Texas rig angler, but I’m getting hooked on chatterbaits. 

A slower action rod with a stiff slower loading tip will help with fish throwing the bait.  I'd bump up to a H regular or mod fast action glass or glass composite rod made for moving baits.   

1 hour ago, Banned User said:

@BrianMDTX that's a hit brother, I definitely recommend grabbing a mhmf

 

Were you fighting with you rod tip down towards the water? 

My inflatable is low in the water. Even with the elevated seat it’s likely lower than most fishing yaks. So while I try to keep it low, I can’t point the tip too far down or it will be in the water lol. 
 

I do have a MHMF rod in the inventory, so I am going to switch to that. At least I know that big gal is still there. I had a hard time getting to sleep last night as I kept replaying that vision over and over and over in my mind. Bear hunters may think most bears are big, but when you see a really big bear, you know it’s big. Some bass at first look big but shrink after you really analyze what you saw. This was a big, big bass. That maw was at least 8”-9” wide. 

For me, I also take rod power into consideration. Fast action if I’m fishing a medium heavy. More moderate fast in a heavy. Lots of variables can be added to the mix as well including line type that can also influence the rod choice and wanted action.

2 hours ago, BrianMDTX said:

I can’t point the tip too far down or it will be in the water

As long as there's no weeds or rocks or dock pilings right there i think you just identified a greater issue that will really help you land more bass. Stick your tip in bro!

 

You can even put almost the whole thing in if you want to

 

https://majorleaguefishing.com/bass-pro-tour/paul-elias-still-kneelin-and-reelin-like-it-was-1982/

 

There's nothing wrong with sticking your tip in, it'll dry off by the time you get home and nobody needs to know but you

 

 

I can see why your name is Banned User lol! 
 

I will try that. Certainly not worried about the rod getting wet. 

On 9/21/2025 at 11:42 PM, casts_by_fly said:

Fast or moderate, braid or mono.  It is all personal preference.  You have to find what works for you.  For ME, I like mono and a fast action with pretty good power.  I’m fishing medium cover, not huge fish.  Some hit it when it hits the water and the fast action accounts for my lack of attention.  Some hit it on the way home on a tight line and the lighter tip lets them get it before I set the hook. 

@ohioguy25 three trips to the same lake and two dozen bass all on bladed jigs plus another half dozen from my home lake on another trip (fish to just under 5#) have just reinforced my preference and what I typed above. Tonight alone, half the bass hit it when it hit the water after a long cast. I’m talking a full 35-40 yard cast. I’ve made that same cast with more moderate rods (same line) but with lighter treble hooks and not stuck the fish. I haven’t lost one in three months now.  On top, a couple have hit it right at the boat where you could argue the more moderate rod might let the fish get it better and yet, when they want it they want it. This one hit with about 10’ of line past the tip (just enough I couldn’t boat flip him) and the only thing outside his mouth was the blade. 
 

 

 

10 hours ago, BrianMDTX said:

 

I do have a MHMF rod in the inventory, so I am going to switch to that. 

If I may ask what rod is in the inventory?  

15 minutes ago, Eric 26 said:

If I may ask what rod is in the inventory?  

It’s a Dobyns Fury 705CB.  

@casts_by_fly sounds like fun bro! What was your exact set up?