On a kayak, I only have so many spots available to store rods, and therefore try to limit it to four set ups. I don’t currently throw the bladed jig quite as much as some other presentations, however it does seem like people catch a lot of big fish on them.

My current set up is too moderate to give me the proper hook-setting power (st Croix victory med heavy moderate fast) and serves as my top water rod so I spool it with 15 pound mono. The combination of stretch/action makes it less than ideal for large single hooks like those found on spinner/bladed jig.

I recently broke another Rod that I don’t really use that much and want to replace it, wondering if a dedicated Rod for this application would be wasted and could be put to better use? More importantly, what other presentations could I throw on a spinner bait or bladed jig set up? I would really like to combine this with my top water rod, the big holdup is fluorocarbon and I really do not like throwing braid on casting equipment.

It really depends if you want to invest in that technique or not

Which Victory rod you using?

I got a dedicated moderate fast rod (Edge MB765) and chatterbaits now stickem in the roof of their mouth, not the edge of their lip or miss, right in the meat, and stay hooked all the way back to me.

But I'm throwing them more now, so worth it for me but if you aren't going to use it much probably not worth it for you.

Couple 6.5 pounders here, not common in my area, made me a believer. I get the heart thump when I hook into a 3, anything bigger than that and there's a chance I need to grab the dude wipes

2 minutes ago, Banned User said:

It really depends if you want to invest in that technique or not

Which Victory rod you using?

I got a dedicated moderate fast rod (Edge MB765) and chatterbaits now stickem in the roof of their mouth, not the edge of their lip or miss, right in the meat, and stay hooked all the way back to me.

But I'm throwing them more now, so worth it for me but if you aren't going to use it much probably not worth it for you.

Couple 6.5 pounders here, not common in my area, made me a believer. I get the heart thump when I hook into a 3, anything bigger than that and there's a chance I need to grab the dude wipes

7 foot two medium heavy moderate fast. 15 pound mono. Would this set up work if I simply switched to fluoro?

I have the Abu Adrian Avena Pro series spinnerbait rod which I always have a spinnerbait tied on.

Spinnerbaits and bladed jigs would be different rods, ideally.

Spinnerbaits fish just fine on jig/worm style tapers. I think of bladed jigs like a big squarebill; I want power but some bend.

However I don't have that luxury, so everything goes on the Super Destroyer, and it goes mostly fine.

Honestly, I prefer something like a 7,3 or 7,4 mod fast medium heavy for chatterbaits. I feel like the longer length and the mod fast gets a good hook set on them. For spinner baits I like my dobyns 7’1 heavy fast. This is the same rod I use for most jigs and Texas rigs.

I do for Spinnerbaits. A soft tip but enough

backbone to drive the hook home and get em turned my way .

1 hour ago, ohioguy25 said:

Would this set up work if I simply switched to fluoro?

Okay I think you have the target cranker, and this would work with braid and lighter chatterbaits, maybe a tight fluoro. I think that rod might struggle with 1/2 oz plus plastic, probably even 3/8 plus plastic might be a bit too much.

That rod is what really made me want to start exploring moderate and moderate fast rods. I thre a spinnerbait with braid and really liked the fight. But again its overpowered by my tipical weight spinnerbaits.

I also like a moderate fast for spinnerbaits, I know I absolutely jerk the rod way too quick and probably too hard way too soon and lose fish so this helps for my bad habits. Plus I lose less fish on the fight

I have thrown finesse chatterbaits on the target cranker and like it, but if you're throwing 1/2 oz chatterbaits you need a rod that's a bit beefier

Lots of differences in preferences for length, action, and power for those two presentations.

More pertinent to your question, I don’t think a dedicated rod would help you. You said it yourself that with only four rods in the boat you need versatility and you also don’t throw a bladed jig that much. When you get to the stage that you always have one tied on one of the four rods or have multiples tied on multiple rods, then think about a dedicated rod.

I love chatterbaits and do very well on them. I can catch fish on them all year, but from mid winter to late spring is when I have multiple bladed jigs rigged and ready.

Ive tried MH ModF and dislike them. I can't find one with enough power in the mid section for the way I set the hook. I always end up going back to a 7'2-7'4 MH F, which are versatile rods. I never have issues landing fish with graphite blanks, but I dont set the hook like a maniac either. A buddy of mine wants me to start fishing tourneys with him. There are deeper lakes in the schedule and I don't have a very good deep cranking game, so is time to get my weight up.

Unnecessary. I stopped using them all together here in Florida.

In truth I have moved away from all spinners and bladed baits because they simply do not put as many fish in the boat as other methods do, and being an old guy not willing to play around any more, I stick with what works best for me in my choice environments.

I don't even use rubber worms any more. I'm not much of a bottom fisherman because much of the water I fish has too much vegetation and muck down there my worms sink down into and no fish is going to bite it in the muck. So I use lures that stay off the bottom and higher up in the water column.

So most often in lakes and ponds I prefer a fluke or a rat'l trap type of lure. In rivers I will pull out spinners. A white spinner on St. Johns river works great! But try that same lure in some swampy backwoods mucky place and the fish are laughing at me.

All I can do is observe and adjust. And I have adjusted right on away from bladed jigs and spinners.

I tried adding a spinner blade to my flukes and it did not help one bit.

My problem with bladed lures and spinners is I fish a lot of water with heavy cover and lots of debris in the water so I don't want to spend the day getting unsnagged and always cleaning lures off to keep fishing. I want a lure that can slide through cover and not bring it back to me on ever cast.

I even purchased weedless spinners hoping it would increase catch percentage while avoiding all the debris and snags. Did not help one bit. All of them got pushed to the side and back to what works for me.

So today I keep it simple. Like last night my 12 year old son and I went bank fishing at a pond a block away and we both carried one rod with one lure hanging off of it. No backup lures. Just one. I was using a wobbler and my son was using a rat'l trap. We were out there about 45 minutes just before sundown and we both caught 2 fish each and were satisfied with that.

When it gets hotter I will be using the fluke more in heavy cover. Will not even be thinking about spinners and bladed jigs. If I fished docks more I might use a jig more, but I am not a fan of docks. Too much work, and I don't like getting hung up on them and threatened by dock owners giving me a hard time about it. Florida has a lot of angry hostile dock owners for sure. I recently had one threaten to go get his gun if I came anywhere near his dock.

So this type of lure this thread is about may work really well in other parts of the country, but for me in Florida I have walked away from them for the most part.

I am a quantity over quality fisherman. Large spinners can produce a solid quality bite no doubt, but to me fewer of them. So I dial it back to catch more fish not concerned about their size. I do NOT target big fish unless during spawn seen on beds, but otherwise I am going for the most bites I can get, not the biggest fish I can get with fewer bites. Quantity over quality.

For spinners, when out on St. Johns river, I prefer to use inline spinners like the rooster tail. And I buy the biggest 3 models they make which are not available in most stores. They have to be special ordered. I think these are the 1 ounce, 3/4 ounce, and 1/2 ounce models. Big and heavy.

I choose these because with a treble hook on them rather than a single hook I think my hookup ratio is better. And I choose the heavy weights because the wire used to make them is larger and stronger and the extra weight allows me to make casts that are super long range which I need when chasing schoolies on the river.

And when out there on that river I am not just targeting LGM bass. I am also catching sunshine stripers and even redfish and bowfin. I need strong lures.

And so after decades of using standard V shaped spinners and not having the same success with them I get with other lures I simply stopped using that type all together and gave them all away. I don't even own a V shaped spinner any more.

But I won't pull these out in lakes and ponds usually because I get hung up too much. I need open water without all the hang ups. And the St. Johns river gives me that. It is a strictly sandy bottom river. I can drag my inline spinners on the bottom and not get hung up. I can bounce them off the bottom and not get hung up. Not so in lakes and ponds.

I have to adjust to the environment, and then go with what works best for me. So to answer the question of this thread it is quite simply unnecessary for me to use, or even have dedicated spinners or bladed jig lures. They don't fit my environment as well as others, and I guess they don't fit how I fish in that environment either.

To your last question: ohioguy25 said: "More importantly, what other presentations could I throw on a spinner bait or bladed jig set up? I would really like to combine this with my top water rod,"

My topwater rod is a really dialed in speciality setup. I would not use it for anything else. My topwater rods are generally dialed in at 7'6" and on St. Johns river where more distance is needed I sometimes pull out an 8' long rod. I would not use it for spinners or jigs.

I see you limit your rods to 4 in the boat due to being in a kayak, but for me using a regular boat I still use primarily 2 or 3 rods per trip out. I just don't need an entire tackle store in the boat and every variety, shape, and color. I find it humorous for those who do that. Its a lot of work to bring an entire tackle store fishing for sure. I am fortunate Florida fish just are not that picky and have given me the ability to carry one rod and one lure and be happy!

Flukes and rat'l traps top my list for dedicated rods. I catch more fish with these with less work than any other. Its keeps fishing fun. When it becomes work I need to find another hobby.

I fish from mostly a kayak and I carry a different rod for each bait if I expect both to be a potential player. I can pretty comfortably carry 12 rods in my kayak before I'm out of rod tubes though.

I will throw spinnerbaits and Chatterbaits on the same combo. A Daiwa Tatula Elite 7’3” Medium Heavy power Fast action. I prefer a fast to snap it out of weeds which is usually what I throw chattterbaits in and around.

I have a dedicated, custom-made rod for spinnerbaits.

I find that the more rods I own the fewer I want to carry.

38 minutes ago, brophog said:

I find that the more rods I own the fewer I want to carry.

Ugh ain't that the truth. I need a solid tip rod badly but I'm already grumpy with the 5 rods I take.

17 hours ago, Banned User said:

Okay I think you have the target cranker, and this would work with braid and lighter chatterbaits, maybe a tight fluoro. I think that rod might struggle with 1/2 oz plus plastic, probably even 3/8 plus plastic might be a bit too much.

That rod is what really made me want to start exploring moderate and moderate fast rods. I thre a spinnerbait with braid and really liked the fight. But again its overpowered by my tipical weight spinnerbaits.

I also like a moderate fast for spinnerbaits, I know I absolutely jerk the rod way too quick and probably too hard way too soon and lose fish so this helps for my bad habits. Plus I lose less fish on the fight

I have thrown finesse chatterbaits on the target cranker and like it, but if you're throwing 1/2 oz chatterbaits you need a rod that's a bit beefier

No I have the reg cranking rod - 7’2” medium heavy mod fast. Up to 7/8 oz. Still underpowered?

W

59 minutes ago, brophog said:

I find that the more rods I own the fewer I want to carry.

Why is this exactly?

5 hours ago, FloridaFishinFool said:

Unnecessary. I stopped using them all together here in Florida.

In truth I have moved away from all spinners and bladed baits because they simply do not put as many fish in the boat as other methods do, and being an old guy not willing to play around any more, I stick with what works best for me in my choice environments.

I don't even use rubber worms any more. I'm not much of a bottom fisherman because much of the water I fish has too much vegetation and muck down there my worms sink down into and no fish is going to bite it in the muck. So I use lures that stay off the bottom and higher up in the water column.

So most often in lakes and ponds I prefer a fluke or a rat'l trap type of lure. In rivers I will pull out spinners. A white spinner on St. Johns river works great! But try that same lure in some swampy backwoods mucky place and the fish are laughing at me.

All I can do is observe and adjust. And I have adjusted right on away from bladed jigs and spinners.

I tried adding a spinner blade to my flukes and it did not help one bit.

My problem with bladed lures and spinners is I fish a lot of water with heavy cover and lots of debris in the water so I don't want to spend the day getting unsnagged and always cleaning lures off to keep fishing. I want a lure that can slide through cover and not bring it back to me on ever cast.

I even purchased weedless spinners hoping it would increase catch percentage while avoiding all the debris and snags. Did not help one bit. All of them got pushed to the side and back to what works for me.

So today I keep it simple. Like last night my 12 year old son and I went bank fishing at a pond a block away and we both carried one rod with one lure hanging off of it. No backup lures. Just one. I was using a wobbler and my son was using a rat'l trap. We were out there about 45 minutes just before sundown and we both caught 2 fish each and were satisfied with that.

When it gets hotter I will be using the fluke more in heavy cover. Will not even be thinking about spinners and bladed jigs. If I fished docks more I might use a jig more, but I am not a fan of docks. Too much work, and I don't like getting hung up on them and threatened by dock owners giving me a hard time about it. Florida has a lot of angry hostile dock owners for sure. I recently had one threaten to go get his gun if I came anywhere near his dock.

So this type of lure this thread is about may work really well in other parts of the country, but for me in Florida I have walked away from them for the most part.

I am a quantity over quality fisherman. Large spinners can produce a solid quality bite no doubt, but to me fewer of them. So I dial it back to catch more fish not concerned about their size. I do NOT target big fish unless during spawn seen on beds, but otherwise I am going for the most bites I can get, not the biggest fish I can get with fewer bites. Quantity over quality.

For spinners, when out on St. Johns river, I prefer to use inline spinners like the rooster tail. And I buy the biggest 3 models they make which are not available in most stores. They have to be special ordered. I think these are the 1 ounce, 3/4 ounce, and 1/2 ounce models. Big and heavy.

I choose these because with a treble hook on them rather than a single hook I think my hookup ratio is better. And I choose the heavy weights because the wire used to make them is larger and stronger and the extra weight allows me to make casts that are super long range which I need when chasing schoolies on the river.

And when out there on that river I am not just targeting LGM bass. I am also catching sunshine stripers and even redfish and bowfin. I need strong lures.

And so after decades of using standard V shaped spinners and not having the same success with them I get with other lures I simply stopped using that type all together and gave them all away. I don't even own a V shaped spinner any more.

But I won't pull these out in lakes and ponds usually because I get hung up too much. I need open water without all the hang ups. And the St. Johns river gives me that. It is a strictly sandy bottom river. I can drag my inline spinners on the bottom and not get hung up. I can bounce them off the bottom and not get hung up. Not so in lakes and ponds.

I have to adjust to the environment, and then go with what works best for me. So to answer the question of this thread it is quite simply unnecessary for me to use, or even have dedicated spinners or bladed jig lures. They don't fit my environment as well as others, and I guess they don't fit how I fish in that environment either.

To your last question: ohioguy25 said: "More importantly, what other presentations could I throw on a spinner bait or bladed jig set up? I would really like to combine this with my top water rod,"

My topwater rod is a really dialed in speciality setup. I would not use it for anything else. My topwater rods are generally dialed in at 7'6" and on St. Johns river where more distance is needed I sometimes pull out an 8' long rod. I would not use it for spinners or jigs.

I see you limit your rods to 4 in the boat due to being in a kayak, but for me using a regular boat I still use primarily 2 or 3 rods per trip out. I just don't need an entire tackle store in the boat and every variety, shape, and color. I find it humorous for those who do that. Its a lot of work to bring an entire tackle store fishing for sure. I am fortunate Florida fish just are not that picky and have given me the ability to carry one rod and one lure and be happy!

Flukes and rat'l traps top my list for dedicated rods. I catch more fish with these with less work than any other. Its keeps fishing fun. When it becomes work I need to find another hobby.

Appreciate your input. Will give your method a shot.

OP, I don't have a dedicated rod...except for my short range rod...but carry a rod with a spinnerbait on it at when carrying more than 2 rods with me. My two largest bass...both in Florida...were caught on a spinnerbait. No special rod needed. I use a MHF except if using a 5/16 oz. or less.

EDIT: One lure that's always on a rod here is a weightless 10 or 10.5 inch ribbontail worm. Mostly Junebug but I like black too. Green pumpkin never seems to be near as good for me.

I never fish the bottom for the above reason...too much trouble to clean lures on every retrieve.

2 hours ago, ohioguy25 said:

Why is this exactly?

I don't know, probably just age. When we're young we want every lure in the store, get a bag big enough to carry them all, then all the rods to cast everything. Then we get old, realize we don't want to carry all of that stuff then come to the conclusion we only used 3 lures anyhow and we can probably cast all three on one rod.

You want to make sure you're getting the most out of every rod that you put on your kayak. I understand.

My preference for spinnerbaits and bladed jigs is a rod with a moderate/fast tip and a very parabolic rod. It's a wavy tip with a strong backbone that I'm looking for. The Duckett Jacob Wheeler rods fit that bill perfectly. Turns out they are also excellent for slowly running deep cranks on the bottom. And I've also fished Carolina rigs with them.

For what it’s worth I have a 7’-2”🤔 Okuma EVX-B MH Fast action rod that has suggested uses on it which are spinnerbait, chatter bait & swim jig. I’ve personally thrown all 3 suggestions on it and then some, also if I were in your situation and I feel like many will say this is exact same thing, it’s a great rod for overall lure choices that just throws so many things well.

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Yes, unnecessary. My St Croix med/fast (utility rod) handles 3/8 quite well, and on the rare occasion I use 1/2oz, my Kistler mh gets called into duty. If they were confidence baits I threw often then I'd for sure put together a dedicated outfit for them. Applies to both chatters and spinners.

8 hours ago, Bass Rutten said:

Yes, unnecessary. My St Croix med/fast handles 3/8 quite well, and on the rare occasion I use 1/2oz, my Kistler mh gets called into duty. If they were confidence baits I threw often then I'd for sure put together a dedicated outfit for them. Applies to both chatters and spinners.

Same I just can’t make myself throw them but I see how well they produce for people on my waters so I’m tempted to commit.

Were I in your shoes, I’d take a look at the Dobyns DC 734C. It’s the utilitarian stick in my locker. Have thrown both spinnerbaits and chatterbaits on it and caught many fish. I have a dedicated bladed jig rod, but like you only have so much room in the kayak. If I don’t want to eat up one of my rod holders with my bladed jig stick but might throw one, having the 734 onboard gives me the option. Great with spinnerbaits as well.