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Shop around and you can find the Citica D on sale for around $75. This is an outstanding reel that if properly maintained, will last a lifetime. Shimano's motto is: Strong, smooth, silent and reliant. You will not be disappointed. p.s. If you are patient and save up a few more dollars, the new Citica E pops up on our Flea Market occasionally. They are always well priced. 8-)

This should help: http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1141187546 8-)

I think Brass-Brat has it covered. For my "all-around" baitcaster I have the St. Croix Avid AVS66MF with a soft tip. You can use this rod for everything except soft plastics and jigs. For these applications, the G. Loomis IMX MBR844C is THE BOMB! However, I use mine almost exclusively for jigs. For soft plastics I prefer spinning tackle (St. Croix ES70MF), but if you need to save some money, I recommend the AVS68MXF or AVS70MF. 8-)

Shimano Symetre 2500 Cabela's has the 2500FI on closeout sale for $50 in their Christmas catalog. Otherwise, save some money and by the FJ for $100. Many members of the Shimano Posse consider this the "best value" in the Shimano line-up. 8-)

Do not! ...Do too! Do not! ...Do too! Okay, now that's out of the way. After re-reading this thread, it seems the point mrdassky was making regarded hooking little fish...So, sorry guys...I don't care. ---> : <--- You're welcome!

Thanksgiving Story Resonates in Year of Crisis: Caroline Baum Commentary by Caroline Baum Nov. 26 (Bloomberg) -- It is the tradition of this column every year at this time to recount the story of Thanksgiving. This year, with the government encroaching on the private sector, taxpayers being asked (told, really) to bear the losses from banks' risk-taking, and tomorrow's generation shouldering the tax liability for today's profligacy, it seems more appropriate than ever. The U.S. bailout of sacred cows (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) and unholy alliances (Citigroup Inc.) has been ''unprecedented'' in both size and audacity, with the government picking winners and losers as events, not principles, dictate. American-style capitalism may never be the same, or maybe it never was what it was cracked up to be. That's why it's important to heed the lessons of the past. For source material, I rely on the accounts of William Bradford, governor of the Plymouth Bay Colony for 30 years between 1621 and 1656. Bradford's history ''Of Plimoth Plantation'' was first published in 1856. Most Americans think of Thanksgiving as a day off from school or work, a time to gather with friends and family and celebrate with a huge feast. If children know anything about the origins of this national holiday, declared each year by presidential proclamation, it's that the Pilgrims, grateful for a good harvest in their new land, set aside this day to give thanks. New World, Old Baggage Adults aren't any better informed. They may know something of the hardships encountered by the Pilgrims, a group of English separatists who came to the New World to escape religious persecution. What they probably don't know, since it's not part of the politically correct high school curriculum, is how these immigrants overcame the obstacles to prosper in the New World. The Pilgrims' first winters, after they landed at Plymouth Rock in 1620 and established the Plymouth Bay Colony, were harsh. The weather and crop yields were poor. Half the Pilgrims died or returned to England in the first year. Those who remained went hungry. In spite of their deep religious convictions, the Pilgrims took to stealing from one another. Finally, in the spring of 1623, Governor Bradford and the others ''begane to thinke how they might raise as much corne as they could, and obtaine a better crop than they had done, that they might not still thus languish in misery,'' according to Bradford's history. Communist Manifesto One of the traditions the Pilgrims had brought with them from England was a practice known as ''farming in common.'' Everything they produced was put into a common pool; the harvest was rationed according to need. They had thought ''that the taking away of property, and bringing in community into a common wealth, would make them happy and flourishing,'' Bradford recounts. They were wrong. ''For this community (so far as it was) was found to breed much confusion and discontent, and retard much imployment that would have been to their benefite and comforte,'' Bradford writes. Young, able-bodied men resented working for others without compensation. They thought it an ''injuestice'' to receive the same allotment of food and clothing as those who didn't pull their weight. What they lacked were appropriate incentives. After the Pilgrims had endured near-starvation for three winters, Bradford decided to experiment when it came time for spring planting in 1623. He set aside a plot of land for each family, that ''they should set corne every man for his owne perticuler, and in that regard trust to themselves.'' Pilgrims' Progress The results were nothing short of miraculous. Bradford writes: ''This had very good success; for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corne was planted than other waise would have bene by any means the Govr or any other could use, and saved him a great deall of trouble, and gave far better content.'' The women now went willingly into the field, carrying their young children on their backs. Those who previously claimed they were too old or ill to work embraced the idea of private property and enjoyed the fruits of their labor, eventually producing enough to trade their excess corn for furs and other desired commodities. With proper incentives in place, the Pilgrims produced and enjoyed a bountiful harvest in the fall of 1623 and set aside ''a day of thanksgiving'' to thank God for their good fortune. ''Any generall wante or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day,'' Bradford writes in an entry from 1647, the last year covered by his history. We now know the Pilgrims' good fortune had nothing to do with luck. In 1623, they were responding to the same incentives that, almost four centuries later, are recognized as necessary for a free, productive and prosperous society. Just how necessary, we're about to find out.

SCUMBAGS! We have two scam threads running that we will keep at the top of the page through Christmas. Be sure to read them both. >

Yep, even a lot of guys that live close enough to fish the lake find it very challenging. George has warned on several posts over the years about the dangers you face. I think he has posted some other spots in the general area for bank fishing, but not Stick Marsh/Farm 13. So, unless you hire a guide, I suggest finding other water to fish. 8-)

Welcome aboard! 8-)

Another disagree,sorry. You can't quite put a jig,any jig,into the places where you can put a slender low profile craw worm,tube,creature. Huh and to think I have been doing it for 30+ years Wow Catt! And to think you've been doing it wrong all these years... Come to think of it, I might have done that a time or two myself. :

Yes, but the early '80's. Lee Iacocca worked for $1 and SUBMITTED A PLAN to make Chrysler profitable. On July 17, 1983 Chrysler repaid all governmant loans. Today the automobile companies lack a plan and cannot survive using their current business platform. This situation cannot be "fixed", it must be reengineered from the bottom up. 8-)

Hmm... I don't know anyone who carries that removes their weapon unless hitting the clubs or entering facilities EXPRESSLY PROHIBITING firearms. To carry a weapon in the normal course of a day seems responsible to me. I view being unarmed and unable to protect yourself or your loved one's as irresponsibe. I think the Sheriff should be fired. >

Well, I never peg, but it has nothing to do with the hook set. I'm not convinced it makes a bit of difference. 8-)

Here's a summary from Bloomberg: Citigroup Bailout Charts New Course for U.S. Government Rescues 2008-11-25 05:01:00.14 GMT By Craig Torres and Robert Schmidt Nov. 25 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. government's emergency rescue of Citigroup Inc. offers a new model for bank bailouts: explicitly insuring against losses on toxic assets, with taxpayers footing the bill. The Citigroup plan extends the federal commitment beyond the previous framework of capital injections from the Treasury and credit from the Federal Reserve. Now, the U.S. is a partner in the performance of $306 billion in real-estate loans and securities, sharing losses beyond $29 billion on what are likely to be some of Citigroup's worst holdings. “Everybody and his brother has got to have their hand out now,” said Eric Hovde, chief investment officer at Hovde Capital Advisors, which manages $1 billion in financial-services stocks. “The whole problem is so much bigger and deeper than the Fed and Treasury ever understood.” Taxpayers are likely to be at greater risk from the new template, which may be used to help more companies as debt writedowns continue to climb, analysts said. “Every situation will need to be evaluated on a case by case basis, but obviously we are able to draw from our experiences as we work through these issues in the financial system,” Treasury spokeswoman Brookly McLaughlin said. Citigroup's crisis escalated as it was forced to take on its balance sheet a number of special units created to invest in riskier securities. The New York-based bank's shares lost 60 percent last week, and then recouped some of those losses yesterday after the government's rescue. Other lenders remain vulnerable. Weakened Banks Wells Fargo & Co. is absorbing Wachovia Corp., the bank that regulators pushed in September to merge amid mounting losses from $120 billion in a portfolio of home loans. Bank of America Corp. has taken on both Countrywide Financial Corp., once the biggest independent mortgage lender, and Merrill Lynch & Co., the securities dealer hobbled by $24 billion of losses. Morgan Stanley slumped almost one third in the past three months. Other banks “are going to show up” and ask for the Citigroup deal, predicted Joseph Mason, a professor at Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge who previously worked at the Treasury's Office of the Comptroller of the Currency. The loss-sharing plan is another twist in the saga of Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's management of the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program. Since the rescue fund was approved by Congress and enacted last month, Paulson has been criticized by lawmakers and others for not having a clear design for using the money. President-elect Barack Obama joined the chorus yesterday. ‘Confusion' on Strategy There has been “confusion on what the overall direction might be” of the Bush administration's plans, Obama said in a press conference in Chicago. At the same time, he pledged to “honor the commitments” of the outgoing team. “The model is that there is no model,” said V. Gerard Comizio, senior partner in the banking practice at the Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker law firm in Washington. “It is an improvisation battle plan.” Under the terms of the agreement, Citigroup will cover the first $29 billion of pretax losses from the $306 billion asset pool, in addition to reserves it already set aside. Citigroup will accept 10 percent of losses above that amount, with the government responsible for 90 percent. The Treasury is second in line, taking $5 billion in losses, and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is third, absorbing up to $10 billion. If the portfolio plummets through those triggers, the Fed steps in with a loan for the remaining assets. Initial $25 Billion U.S. authorities acted after the second-biggest U.S. bank by assets touched $3.05, the lowest level since 1992, threatening confidence among its depositors and counterparties. Citigroup had already received a $25 billion infusion under Paulson's $250 billion capital-injection program. “The Treasury and the Fed are doing what they can do to hold the pieces together, and it hasn't been easy,” said Martin Regalia, chief economist at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which lobbies on behalf of 3 million businesses. “If we don't keep the financial system going that is going to impose costs on the American public that will be real and palpable.” The Fed's exposure in the deal also represents a tack in the way the central bank has approached the crisis. Since what was an effective purchase of $29 billion Bear Stearns Cos. assets in March, Fed officials have shown a preference for providing short-term credits for firms facing a cash squeeze. Assets Swell The central bank's balance sheet expanded $1.3 trillion in the past year as the Fed auctioned $415 billion of cash to banks and purchased $272 billion of commercial paper. Fed officials have pushed to keep the risks involved in future bailouts at the Treasury, which would be forced to negotiate with Congress about the use of taxpayer funds. Now, the Fed is stepping outside the liquidity boundary once again. The central bank took a step toward risk sharing earlier this month when it opened two new facilities with up to $52.5 billion in loans to help American International Group Inc. wind down its portfolio. “It is clear that regulators still lack a comprehensive plan to address problems in our financial markets,” Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama, the ranking Republican on the Senate Banking Committee, said through his spokesman Jonathan Graffeo. “It is unclear whether they have carefully considered the implications of their continued ad-hoc approach.”

It's in the link I posted: Making Reservations We suggest booking your reservation as soon as possible in order to insure the dates of your choice. Reservations can be made by phone: 772 532-7440 or 772 532-7429. By e-mail: acstech1@bellsouth.net 8-)

Misunderstanding...My partner boated a 5, mine were all dinks. My best "couldn't break 3 without an 8 oz weight", something less than 2 1/2 lbs. 8-)

Eight smallmouth, 100+ pounds of drum! My partner caught a 5, I couldn't break 3 without an 8 oz weight. Poor water release = poor fishing.

Well, I like to have 80 -100 yards of "good line" for fishing, the rest is just backing, even if it's brand new! I guess if you can cast farther than that you would need a little more capacity. 8-)

Last week you asked how to attach a chunk to a jig and now you have a suggestion for winter trailers...Amazing! :

PERSONAL PREFERENCE 8-)

tyrius, Excellent explanation! The deal seems reasonable when compared to Warren Buffet's recent GE and GS deals. Of course the major difference is the "guarantees" which were not any part of Berkshire transactions. What bothers me is leaving the management and board of directors intact.

Here's an article I keep in "My Favorites": http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1189609782 8-)

Smallmouth fishermen get lots of leeway! 8-)

Nothin' to talk about...Make arrangements to fish with George Welcome: http://www.imaginationbassin.com/index.htm 8-)

Although oil is currently trading well above lows, there is a lot of buzz about a $35 bottom. Hmm...We are currently at $51.53. Locally gasoline is $1.57-$1.69 without discounts. ;D ;D ;D