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If money wasn't an issue, what would you consider to the best F & P rod on the market for yankin-em out of the junk. Looking for the apex of attributes, Interested in a split grip stick in the 7'4" to 7'6" range, mostly because it can be a bit challenging using anything longer out of a small Jon boat.

Thanks in advance for your input. :wink2:

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Even if money wasn't an option I can't ever see spending more than 100-150 on a rod period. I use a 7'11" H/F Veritas. Can't think of a better rod for the pitching I do.

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Money no issue = Custom built 7'11" H/MF St Croix SCV flipping stick, for flipping, and a 7'6" MH/MF St Croix SCV for pitching.

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Money no issue = Custom built 7'11" H/MF St Croix SCV flipping stick, for flipping, and a 7'6" MH/MF St Croix SCV for pitching.

100% this. If money isn't an issue, the SCV blank is about as good as it gets for custom rod building. Contact Mattman at otterods. He will build you a thing of beauty on that blank for a little more than the cost of the actual St. Croix Xtreme flipping stick.

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One of finest flip sticks, better in my opinion than the option mentioned, is the Dobyns DX795. It's got all the right attributes for the perfect flip stick. I don't much like dobyns rods, but this one is done superbly well.

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One of finest flip sticks, better in my opinion than the option mentioned, is the Dobyns DX795. It's got all the right attributes for the perfect flip stick.

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Either the 795 or the 745. Both are excellent sticks.

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Money no issue = Custom built 7'11" H/MF St Croix SCV flipping stick

I've used the Legend Extreme production version of this blank, and it is one heck of a stick. It's a little more "tippy" than you'd expect, but with all that length, it's a beast.

I have one Dobyns rod, a 745C Champ Extreme, and it is really ideal for pitching jigs. A little longer, but not too long, and super fast tip that loads easily.

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would a 7'2" work for pitching? mh fast

I pitch with every single rod in my arsenal. It's just a cast. Learn to pitch with all your rods, and you will see what a handy skill it is. Especially if you're in the back of the boat.

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Just wondering why pitching flipping rods tend to be longer? I thought the norm was shorter the more accurate? I have yet to learn how to use this technique properly lol.

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Pitching technique uses the rod tip as a fulcrum. The longer the rod, the more line out, and more leverage to sling the bait. That said, once you're proficient, length doesn't matter as much. Flipping, on the other hand, almost requires a longer rod. You're using a fixed amount of line out, and a longer rod can give you an extra foot or two of range.

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That Dobyns 745DX is awesome for jigs!

I use the Dobyns 805C FLIP/PITCH for 3/4 - 1oz flipping/pitching and the Dobyns 766SS FLIP/PITCH for 1.25 - 1.5oz. All of these rods have full cork, though, and you mentioned preferring the split grip.

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Pitching technique uses the rod tip as a fulcrum. The longer the rod, the more line out, and more leverage to sling the bait. That said, once you're proficient, length doesn't matter as much. Flipping, on the other hand, almost requires a longer rod. You're using a fixed amount of line out, and a longer rod can give you an extra foot or two of range.

Like J said size does matter.

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Longer the rod the better for line movement when you set the hook and get that fish out of the cover. Also if your punching thick weeds the longer the rod will help you maintain less of an angle at water entry. The less pitch the easier it is to bring your bait through the weeds.

Picture this, 1/2 piece of plywood, now turn it on an angle and penetrate. It becomes thicker than 1/2 therefore causing your bait/catch to exit through more cover than necessary.

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That Dobyns 745DX is awesome for jigs!

I use the Dobyns 805C FLIP/PITCH for 3/4 - 1oz flipping/pitching and the Dobyns 766SS FLIP/PITCH for 1.25 - 1.5oz. All of these rods have full cork, though, and you mentioned preferring the split grip.

Pretty sure you can get the 745 in a split grip, Mike. I personally feel they balance a bit better with the full grip though.

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I personally feel they balance a bit better with the full grip though.

With a somewhat weightier reel, like the Chonarch 201e7 I use, I agree.

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Im one of those guys that thinks theres a fair bit of diminishing returns in fishing rods/reels after a certain dollar amount. For me thats been right around 200 dollars.

That being said I really want to try a *** *** Black and the new Recon 2 and M1 rods by Phenix!

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Truly appreciate all the advice. I currently have all GLoomis's and one Kistler Argon, which I love, put needed another rod for just flippin and pitchin. I almost bought a Helium, they're having "buy one get one free, clearance which ends today. But, then noticed they are stopping production on the Helium's. While on the site I saw there new line of KLX rods and couldn't resist. Just the name alone gave me goosebumps! LOL

KLX Grass Punching-Stump Grinder X-Heavy 7' 3"

DETAILED SPECIFICATIONS:

  • Fuji blank exposed reel seat
  • Fuji MICRO (larger than other brand micro rods) Stainless steel "K" tangle free, Alconite rings
  • Action: Moderate-Fast
  • Length: 7'3"
  • Power: Extra-Heavy
  • Lure weight: 3/8 - 2 oz.
  • Line weight: 20 - 65 lb.
  • Handle length: 11.5"
  • Overall rod weight 4.4 ounce

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Loomis BCR GLX 874, MBR 844, Dobyns DX 745, NRX 893. All good rods.

Not enough balls for the heavy stuff.

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Not enough balls for the heavy stuff.

I agree the 893 is more of a lighter jig rod, but the 844 always impressed me as having plenty of backbone

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MBR844C or BCR854

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I agree the 893 is more of a lighter jig rod, but the 844 always impressed me as having plenty of backbone

my mistake for not elaborating. Like Fracho mentioned, pitching is a form of casting and doesn't require a heavy rod and both the 893 and 844 would suffice- I use both. Flipping, on the other hand, usually isn't done with less than 50-65# braid and with 1/2-1.5oz weight. Niether of those rods would hold up.

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my mistake for not elaborating. Like Fracho mentioned, pitching is a form of casting and doesn't require a heavy rod and both the 893 and 844 would suffice- I use both. Flipping, on the other hand, usually isn't done with less than 50-65# braid and with 1/2-1.5oz weight. Niether of those rods would hold up.

I can see using that much weight in Florida in the grass, but where I am from we can typically get by with 3/4oz to 1oz. and often flip baits that are much lighter. Anyway I can respect your opinion, guess it just depends on where and how you are fishing.

I looked through the posts but did not see where your recommendations were. Please share.

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