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I believe this is the reason God gave us "sippin whiskey" and good cigars, Hunker down and read a good book. Spring will show up sometime.

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Good luck guys and stay safe!!

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Stay safe for sure.. But I don't mind this at all. I need some time off of school!

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Don't know what you're talking about.  Temps were in the low 60's and sunny yesterday.  Same forecast for today.  :Idontknow:

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My trip to Charlotte, NC was cancelled.  Now waiting for the "Storm of a lifetime"

 

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Meh, this is going to be a real FUBAR kinda of situation.

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'fox' and 'news' in the same sentence? 

wait i think i see one or two flakes sticking!

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Yea, well on msnbc rev sharp hinted if snowflakes come to NY that he would stage a protest...

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We are forecaster to get 2 feet, we'll see what the true totals are soon enough. 

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What cracks me up is all these scenes of people at the supermarket. Now I don't want to judge or know everyone's situation but are really that many people who don't have enough food to hold them over for a day or two at most? I dunno I don't get it. It's the northeast same thing happens every year and some how civilization marches on.

Except that storm in western New York at the beginning of the year. That was crazy.

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What cracks me up is all these scenes of people at the supermarket. Now I don't want to judge or know everyone's situation but are really that many people who don't have enough food to hold them over for a day or two at most? I dunno I don't get it. It's the northeast same thing happens every year and some how civilization marches on.

Except that storm in western New York at the beginning of the year. That was crazy.

try living in Virginia....i made the mistake last year of going on my normal weekly grocery store trip when a storm was predicted.  it was nuts....never saw so many carts full of frozen pizza and beer before.  I guess in that type of hunker down snowstorm (which in VA is about 2" by the way) the electricity stays on so you can cook your pizza

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People do the same thing here. We get maybe 1" of snow and/or ice once or twice a year. People go out and buy everything in the grocery store, knowing full well it will be 50° again in a couple of days. It's crazy.

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Coastal areas may have some problems, the brunt of the storm is projected to be at high tide.  There could flooding and power outages.  The warm waters of the ocean for this time of year is making this storm similar to a hurricane, but with snow instead of rain and freezing temperatures.  Glad I'm not there.

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Fox reported an epic 3" fell overnight in NY City

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A "blizzard" in the major metropolitan area's of the northeast is what I like to call............................just about every day in WNY from late fall to early spring.

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Weather reporting today is a complete circus act.

 

From naming every winter storm like they were hurricanes to calling every snow flurry "The storm of a life time" - it's disheartening.

 

I have resorted to simply reading The National Weather service forecast on line - provides plain & simple predictions.  Completely palatable without the hype.

 

A-Jay

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This was a weird storm and many of the reliable weather forecasters even got it wrong as far as where the brunt of the storm was going to hit..the guy i like to follow came out and said he blew this one and from following him for quite a few years now, that doesn't happen too often.

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Weather reporting today is a complete circus act.

 

From naming every winter storm like they were hurricanes to calling every snow flurry "The storm of a life time" - it's disheartening.

 

I have resorted to simply reading The National Weather service forecast on line - provides plain & simple predictions.  Completely palatable without the hype.

 

A-Jay

 

I'm not a meteorologist but I work at the Baltimore/Washington Forecast Office in Sterling, VA. I can tell you that most meteorologist and observers here agree with you. Especially working in the DC metro area these guys really have to CYOA when forecasting any severe weather. If they forecast 1-2" and someone measures 2 1/4" in their back yard they flip out, start calling governors offices and whoever else they can think of, it just rolls down hill from there. Not to mention the addition of social media where everyone and their mother is a facebook meteorologist. The following is a facebook post from someone here this morning after some of the backlash from this latest snow...

 

This is going to make me sound like an old curmudgeon, but I am a firm believer that the plethora of weather forecast models that exist in today's world make us WORSE as meteorologists. When I started in this business, you had exactly two computer simulations (with a third that came along around that time). If they didn't agree, you did actual weather analysis to determine which one was more likely to be correct, and you went with it or went off the board out on your own.

Today, this is impossible. For some weather elements, there are **40** different models (plus a plethora of individual ensemble members of some of those models) to choose from. You can't even LOOK at them all, let alone analyze them. And with that many solutions, you know what? Unlike the old days, one or more of them is probably pretty close to being right!

I'm not saying we should go back to having only two solutions again. But I have a vision of how this could work better -- or actually *work* at all? Not posting it here (mostly just ranting...and disclaimer: this is a personal opinion and does not represent my employer) but I think it's time to see if I can sway an opinion or two...or just keep venting frustration on Facebook.

 

This is a comment from another...

I definitely agree that we've gotten away from the "weather analysis" part in lieu of having to sift through multiple models and ensembles (not to mention customer questions and the like). The external pressure from the high schooler down the street posting straight model graphics is hurting that, and the constant upgrades--while producing better models--make it tough to keep up with the biases and tendencies. I'd like to see more emphasis on smarter visualizations and use of data--not to mention training on how to sift through everything!!--but I'm not sure if the 'right way' has even been invented yet.

 

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I'm not a meteorologist but I work at the Baltimore/Washington Forecast Office in Sterling, VA. I can tell you that most meteorologist and observers here agree with you.

 

 

 

 

 

  Admittedly I'm not saying that I can predict the weather and I do depend on a forecast to at the very least provide some idea of what to expect - and I'm good with that.

 

It's the over the top sensationalizing of every single forecast that I choose not to participate in. 

This practice is just tiresome & unnecessary.  It's just the weather and the reality is it's going to happen regardless of how it's reported.  So why not present it in a fashion that matches the circumstances ?

 

Semi-rant over.

 

A-Jay

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Well it's blowing like all getout here and I can barely see across the street. There are spots in my driveway that are completely bare and other areas with drifts up about 2.5-3 feet up the side of my truck; and the storm just started. It should be a good one although I agree with the over-hype of a typical New England " Nor 'Easter". I had to laugh when my wife got home from the supermarket and said the lines were down all the isles. We live in Maine after all and storms like this should be expected.

And I agree with A-Jay...you can't put your head in your hands and cry about it, you just bundle up, go snowblow/shovel and deal with it.

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I am not and don't claim to be a professional meteorologist...But I do have a degree in Meteorology as it was what I originally wanted to do in life and I still keep up with it on an amateur level.  

 

Something one of my professors said seems to be getting truer ever year... The news agencies will take creative liberties with your forecast if they think it will draw more viewers/ratings.  This particular storm very well could be a huge one....But it's not some unusual event, Nor-Easters are common and every few years one will have the right conditions to dump a couple feet of snow. 

 

6 feet of snow would make this historic, 2 or 3 feet makes it another bad Nor-Easter with an insane amount of media hype.  

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It's not about the predictions though, it's the hype they project. Do they really need to dress up in cold weather waders and a giant rain coat to astand in a puddle to say it's raining..

Profit is their driving force and it's been for a while now

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