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I was just wondering. Tried fluoro and can't stand it. And can't seem to find any hybrid around here.

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From all reports the top Mono line at the moment looks to be Sunline Defier Armillo, but be prepared for sticker shock.

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im willing to splurge a little but I don't wanna break the bank. I just wanted a more sensitive mono

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I can't find copolymer around here only p line cxx

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McCoy is the best I've tried...and I've tried a bunch.

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You can get a 600 yard spool of Yozuri hybrid off Ebay for $7-12 depending on test and color.

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As long as the mono is not coiled , I dont see where there should be much   difference.I use XL because its inexpensive and has little memory. Suffix Elite lies nicely in the water also. 

 

If you hold the rod in front of the reel and let the line slide between your index  finger and thumb you will have more sensitivity. Most anglers dont like to hold the rod like this, it feels weird to them . I started doing it as a kid so I could feel crappie hit jigs on old solid fiberglass fishing poles and have been doing it ever since.

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Seaguar Senshi is some smooth handling mono and its not too pricey.  

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From all reports the top Mono line at the moment looks to be Sunline Defier Armillo, but be prepared for sticker shock.

 

That line has been HIGHLY recommended by some of our seasoned members, but I have not tried it yet.

My suggestion for an excellent inexpensive alternative is Sunline Super Natural. I have been VERY impressed.

 

 

 

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I still line watch mostly on my T-Rig presentations, but on wacky senko, FC or Hybrid, only to avoid if possible deep hooking fish.. Extra sensitive line never hurts I suppose, but watching your line will also yield better strike detection IMO

On reaction strike baits, I don't believe sensitive line matters at all, again, my opinion..

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Berkley Big Game Mean Green 15# ;)

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I also would be very interested in which Fluorocarbon line you used? There is a big difference in Fluorocarbon and Mono for bottom contact baits. Maybe some of us could steer you towards a better Fluoro and you could maybe try it one more time?

 

   Sunline Defier Armilo is fantastic line and it has very little stretch. If you want the best Mono then this is most likely it.

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I tried invisx and couldn't stand it I'm using it on a 13 ***. Just trying to find that perfect line

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Oh and it was the memory I thought I was throwing a slinky and backlashed non stop

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Might need to work on your thumbing skills then. Invizx is one of the better handling fluoros.

 

What lb test did you use?

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I'll be honest I'm surprised, I thought you would say Vicious Fluorocarbon. Having said Invisix Then my opinion would be to switch to Mono. There are better Fluorocarbon lines but at a larger price, Invisix is very good line.

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Invizx handles better than a lot of mono, stretches more than most mono too. If you were backlashing, that was likely due to the density of the line. It's heavier than mono, and requires more braking or a better thumb.

 

There are some monofilaments that have good abrasion resistance, some with little stretch, some that handle great, but none will compare to the sensitivity of fluorocarbon. The material just doesn't transmit vibrations the same way.

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I was introduced to Maxima Ultragreen a few years ago by Bass Resource member Dwight Hottle.

 

Initially, I was using it as a leader material on the front of my braid main line, still do.   It's fantastic.

 

I have since been using it as a main line.  Very Impressed.  Of course it is a Mono and does display all the characteristics you'd expect; Like superior knot strength, manageability, great strength throughout it's length and my favorite factor - No Mystery failures on Big Fish.

 

And so if you chose to go this way, not only will you get a great line at a reasonable price point, when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.

 

So you'd have that going for you, which is nice.

 

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A-Jay

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I like Silver Thread AN40 in smaller line diameters but when it comes to using 15lb or more I like Big Game. I've also got to like the Berkley Trilene XL Armor Coated in 6lb and 8lb test, that took the place of my Silver Thread AN40 but both are good, the Silver Thread has a bit more stretch than the Armor coated or about the same as the normal XL. I'm like you, I hate fluorocarbon and the stuff I tried either stretched more than mono or was like wire and had terrible memory and if it stretches like mono I could care less how sensitive it is, mono is a lot less expensive. Now if I was still tournament fishing all the time it would be different but I only use braid for frogs and heavy flipping and so I've gone through a lot of monofilament line and here are my favorites, which is more sensitive I don't know but dense fluorocarbon is going to be more sensitive  but how much so is anyone's guess.

 

Berkley Big Game - 15lb to 20lb for fishing worms and jigs, it does stretch but not bad and the abrasion resistance is excellent.

 

Berkley XL Armor Coated (clear) - Excellent handling and abrasion resistance, great in small for finesse presentations very strong with too much stretch for heavier presentations.

 

Silver Thread AN40 - Same qualities of the Armor coated, excellent handling and abrasion resistance with the same degree of stretch as the Berkley Armor coated.

 

Triple Fish Camoescent - Very strong with good abrasion resistance and limited stretch in heavier line diameters but knot strength seems to be a little off.

 

Cajun Clear Lightning - Very clear, very strong, abrasion resistant with very little stretch, but it handles just like fluorocarbon and may even have less stretch.

 

McCoy Extra Clear - This would be my number one line is it was made more available, Strong, Abrasion resistant with very low stretch, it is close to fluorocarbon in clarity but handles a lot better. The one problem is that it is hard to find in filler spools as I don't always want a mini bulk spool because I don't like having it stored a long time. Big Game is cheap enough that I can buy a mini bulk and change line every couple of trips and what I don't use I recycle. So if you feel you'll use a mini bulk without waste, this is the stuff, a little more money but it is the best mono you can get, I really believe that.  I did not like the Sunline Super Natural, the price is very reasonable and it has a thin diameter but I'm not sure if I had a bad batch but I broke off 3 times in a day using the 8lb diameter and all happened on hook set and I retie often and to be fair that was the only diameter line I tried in that brand it left me worried about it to the point I took it off and respooled with the Armor Coated Berkley. I try new lines to see what is out there as not many fish mono like I do so I make it a point to use the best line I can find and you got my list, the Ultra Clear if you can use the mini bulk spool, very strong line.

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I like Silver Thread AN40 in smaller line diameters but when it comes to using 15lb or more I like Big Game. I've also got to like the Berkley Trilene XL Armor Coated in 6lb and 8lb test, that took the place of my Silver Thread AN40 but both are good, the Silver Thread has a bit more stretch than the Armor coated or about the same as the normal XL. I'm like you, I hate fluorocarbon and the stuff I tried either stretched more than mono or was like wire and had terrible memory and if it stretches like mono I could care less how sensitive it is, mono is a lot less expensive. Now if I was still tournament fishing all the time it would be different but I only use braid for frogs and heavy flipping and so I've gone through a lot of monofilament line and here are my favorites, which is more sensitive I don't know but dense fluorocarbon is going to be more sensitive  but how much so is anyone's guess.

 

Berkley Big Game - 15lb to 20lb for fishing worms and jigs, it does stretch but not bad and the abrasion resistance is excellent.

 

Berkley XL Armor Coated (clear) - Excellent handling and abrasion resistance, great in small for finesse presentations very strong with too much stretch for heavier presentations.

 

Silver Thread AN40 - Same qualities of the Armor coated, excellent handling and abrasion resistance with the same degree of stretch as the Berkley Armor coated.

 

Triple Fish Camoescent - Very strong with good abrasion resistance and limited stretch in heavier line diameters but knot strength seems to be a little off.

 

Cajun Clear Lightning - Very clear, very strong, abrasion resistant with very little stretch, but it handles just like fluorocarbon and may even have less stretch.

 

McCoy Extra Clear - This would be my number one line is it was made more available, Strong, Abrasion resistant with very low stretch, it is close to fluorocarbon in clarity but handles a lot better. The one problem is that it is hard to find in filler spools as I don't always want a mini bulk spool because I don't like having it stored a long time. Big Game is cheap enough that I can buy a mini bulk and change line every couple of trips and what I don't use I recycle. So if you feel you'll use a mini bulk without waste, this is the stuff, a little more money but it is the best mono you can get, I really believe that.  I did not like the Sunline Super Natural, the price is very reasonable and it has a thin diameter but I'm not sure if I had a bad batch but I broke off 3 times in a day using the 8lb diameter and all happened on hook set and I retie often and to be fair that was the only diameter line I tried in that brand it left me worried about it to the point I took it off and respooled with the Armor Coated Berkley. I try new lines to see what is out there as not many fish mono like I do so I make it a point to use the best line I can find and you got my list, the Ultra Clear if you can use the mini bulk spool, very strong line.

Have you tried Silver Thread Excalibur copolymer line? It looks to be a step above an-40. 

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Triple fish is a long time fave of mine, as well as Silverthread I use it on spinning, I also had bad experience with sunline supernatural in 8, and 14. I certainly didn't see it as "super" at all... Also Maxima is a rock solid line and maybe triple fish are both by the same manufacturer, both are made in Germany, or were...

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