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Ok got a question for the fourm experts.

 

Will a uniknot work on mono fishing line?

 

As some on here may know already I have been running a caffine swimin shad on a owner 5 size under spinner hook, and been doing super good with it but today i ran into a problem.

 

I cut and retie bout every third fish or any fish over 4 pounds but today i had two diffrent bites both resulting in a line break at the knot.

 

Both bits happened right after I had caught and retied.

 

So should I start useing the uniknot like I do with my braided line or should I start using a leader of some sorts with this bait?

 

The fish inhale this bait when I get a bite and their gums tear up my line really fast that's why I have been retieing so often.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, A5BLASTER said:

Will a uniknot work on mono fishing line?

 

Absolutely!  I've been using the uni-knot as my primary knot since I learned in the mid-80's.  It's a universal knot that can be used on all types of lines, and is incredibly strong and durable.

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 The Uni-Knot has many applications and when tied correctly is very effective.

Knots do not necessarily have to be complicated to work well.

I like simple.

A-Jay

 

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What knot are you tying presently and what pound test? Uni is easy to tie and would work fine with mono, but certainly not the strongest knot you could use. Could be a variety of reasons your line broke.

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I use the uniknot at all times with braid but never used it on mono before so thought I would ask if it would work.

 

Knot I normally use with mono is just a regular old fisherman's knot.

 

I do notice that the bass seem to inhale this bait when they bite and doing so I have to cut and retie very often due to their tooth ridge tearing up the line alot more then normally.

 

The two breaks I had this morning were in the knot, not sure if the fish's teeth caused it to break there or not.

 

Will stat tieing on with the uniknot on my mono and see how it goes.

 

Also though about useing a thicker line as a leader to help with the line being scraped up as bad.

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Not sure what the regular old fisherman's knot is, but it don't sound good :lol: switch to the uni and you'll probably be fine. Highly doubt it's bass teeth causing the problem. 

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If it broke at the knot, it likely not the knot. Sounds like you need some practice.

 

tie a knot, and then break it. Repeat until you feel it get stronger. Do this for every knot you use.

I switched to the uni knot last year, no issues so far. 

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I expect the "regular old fisherman's knot" is a clinch knot, not an improved clinch knot.  If a clinch, it is not a reliable knot.  But if you are using that knot and the end of the line looks curly after your lure disappears, the knot is slipping, not breaking.

 

The uni is a good knot, but no one is telling you how many times to pass the tag end through the loop-I use no fewer than 5, also lube the knot with spit.  Make sure you are passing the tag end through the loop properly so it goes around both lines when making the turns.  It is possible to screw this up and not capture both lines with the turns, and it won't work if that is done.

 Do a search for uni-knot.

 

 

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Old fishermans knot could be several knots, maybe you are using a clinch knot, look it up.

The strongest mono knot that is over 100% strength is the Palomar knot, easy to tie on underspins, hooks etc. The key to tieing good knots is wetting the knot before clinching it tight. With a Palomar knot the key is also pulling the knot tight using only the tag end of the line.

Tom

PS, bass lips have small teeth to grip prey with, no gums!

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I use the uni on all line types except braid. I use a Palomar with braid. Both have worked great for years. 

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Uniknot is a staple knot that you can apply everything fishing and technically a knot that you can use for everything from spooling line on a reel to connecting a leader. 

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The uni-knot (universal knot) is a knot that can truly be used for all line materials

and all types of connections. It offers excellent knot strength, and unlike the Bimini Twist,

you don't have to jump thru hoops. Unlike the palomar knot, you never have to

pass a loop over treble hooks.

 

Oddly enough, I've seen articles underscoring some specialty knot, and then the leader

was joined to the main-line using two uni-knots  (flying in the face of the weakest link concept).

In brief, the Uni-knot is a strong, secure, easy-to-tie, saliva-free knot with universal application.

 

Roger

I am TERRIBLE at knots. For some reason the illustrations just don't always make sense to me, and my fingers don't have the trained dexterity to be good with twisting and flipping line.

 

I fish mono exclusively and, due to my crappy knot skillz, use a Palomar Knot 99.9% of the time.  It's a very simple knot and definitely seems to hold just fine.  When I've had a break at the knot (which has been rare), I can always attribute it to having not done well on the knot tie itself or having had some abrasion near the knot that led to the failure.

 

This year, I want to learn the Uni Knot and a couple others... especially because I might start experimenting with braid w/ fluoro leader and the uni-to-uni joiner seems simple.

Double your eye loop to make the "Fishin' Fool" variation of the uni and you're golden.

Since we are on this subject and I just discovered a problem. I was lining my steelhead rod and the cat decided he wanted to play with the line and nicked it right above the spool. Can I double uni knot this and have it go through the eyes without issue? Don't want to waste 10-13ft of line.

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The night before I take a fishing trip I prepare 2-3 set-ups. Usually a drop shot, Ned rig and a Texas or wacky rig. All of these I use a Palomar knot to tie. It's strong and reliable. It has yet to let me down.

 

When out on the boat, eyesight and dexterity limit me so I purchased a Hook-Eze. I use this when changing baits. It ties a clinch knot in seconds and leaders when I need to almost as fast. While not as reliable as my Palomar knot I trust the clinch knot enough to keep using my Hook-Eze.

 

 

 

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Found the problem, thanks for the replays.

 

Sting was older then I remembered, had to look back throw my logbook to see when I had spooled that reel up.

 

Respooled bought more hooks and finished the day out with 29 landed between me and dad no big ones but lots of fun and a few for the pot.

 

 

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With beer bater fish fry and lots of hot grease right after I cook the hushpuppys and French fries.

 

Are I will saute the fillet's in butter in a cast iron pan.

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12 hours ago, ohihunter2014 said:

Since we are on this subject and I just discovered a problem. I was lining my steelhead rod and the cat decided he wanted to play with the line and nicked it right above the spool. Can I double uni knot this and have it go through the eyes without issue? Don't want to waste 10-13ft of line.

 

Depends on the size of the guides and the pound test of the line.  Uni is not a small knot, so in the higher pound tests, it can snag on some guides.  For 10 feet of line, cut it at the damage and fish with no knot.

16 hours ago, rippin-lips said:

I use the uni on all line types except braid. I use a Palomar with braid. Both have worked great for years. 

I do the same exact thing! Zero problems. I can't recall the last issue I've had due to knot failure or slippage.

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