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    Good evening. I have a ML/F 7' Avid-X spinning rod (high frame guides). Some mono lines don't like spinning reels, and some don't like high frame, small ring guides. I need a mono line to throw 3/8 oz. spoons as far as possible. Locally, the choices are very limited. Anyone have advice on a particular line for me to get and use?   Thnx.    jj

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Big fan of seaguar senshi if you can find it. 

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I usually use Daiwa J-Braid (15lb for finesse) on most of my finesse spinning rods, Sunline SX1 12lb on one tie on leaders. Seaguar blue label 6lb is a solid leader choice but I've been using a lot of 6lb Berkley Trilene XL this year. If the line is thin enough, you don't have to worry about the knot getting stuck going through the guides, even on my Avid X with micro guides, it's a non issue.

 

I also ran 8lb mono on one before, and if spooled correctly you shouldn't have any issues.

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1 hour ago, jimmyjoe said:

    Good evening. I have a ML/F 7' Avid-X spinning rod (high frame guides). Some mono lines don't like spinning reels, and some don't like high frame, small ring guides. I need a mono line to throw 3/8 oz. spoons as far as possible. Locally, the choices are very limited. Anyone have advice on a particular line for me to get and use?   Thnx.    jj

3/8 on a med-light ! I'm using a Med/heavy for tubes with 1/4 tube head 😕 If that helps, I'm using 15lbs braid on my medium Light spinning rods with 12lbs fluoro leaders.

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Gliss is the best casting line for spinning reels if you’re looking for distance add your preferred leader.

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In my opinion, you don't want any mono or FC for that rod, considering  your long distance casting requirement.  Go with a braid no higher than 15 pound test.  10 pound will cast a mile and has the strength so you won't have to be "tender" with it.  Braid is usually considerably stronger than its stated pound test.

 

The only mono that will cast like you want is probably 4 or 6 pound test, and they are too fragile for me.

 

 

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    " ...  The only mono that will cast like you want is probably 4 or 6 pound test, and they are too fragile for me. "

  

    What about 6 lb. test Gamma copoly? Yes .... no? Maybe?  I don't like to use braid with spoons. I twitch them constantly, and the next thing you know, I have a birdnest that would make a baitcaster shudder. And yes, I use ballbearing swivels. Mono is much more tolerant, and easier to straighten out.  You might say it gives me more advance notice.  🙂    jj

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I like 15# Fins Windtamer to Fluoro or Mono leader.  Have used Nano and Gliss.

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    This is kinda getting off-topic. My original question was about a mono line. That's still my question. Which mono line for the rod stated would you use for long distance with a 3/8 oz. spoon?  jj

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I like Sufix Siege mono for all my spinning and baitcasting applications. its the best overall line that I have used in terms of strength, abrasion resistance and low memory. Some lines are more limp, but they are not as strong or tough.

 

for my spinning gear, I like to use 8 and 10 pound tests.

 

for my casting gear, I use 12 pound.

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1 hour ago, Columbia Craw said:

Sunline Super Natural.  Very soft and manageable.

    I've seen that locally, someplace or other. How's the knot strength on it? How stretchy is it?  Thnx.  jj

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I had excellent results, never issues, using Sufix Elite mono. If I were to wind up some mono again, I'd likely use it again.

 

Brad

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17 minutes ago, Brad Reid said:

I had excellent results, never issues, using Sufix Elite mono. If I were to wind up some mono again, I'd likely use it again.

 

Brad

   Hulkster mentioned Siege, and you mentioned Elite. Looks like they're the same diameter. Do you know what material difference there is between the two, if there's any?    jj

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Siege is slightly more stiff but not much- I have no issues with it on spinning gear.. Elite is more limp.

 

but Siege has better abrasion resistance and might be stronger. I just stuck with siege for everything.  but Elite might be better for spinning gear.

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21 minutes ago, jimmyjoe said:

   Hulkster mentioned Siege, and you mentioned Elite. Looks like they're the same diameter. Do you know what material difference there is between the two, if there's any?    jj

I have only used Elite and I can't comment about which is better. But, from Sufix:

 

Each Sufix monofilament fishing line has a set of features that make it ideal for specific situations or angler types. For strength, smooth casting and easy handling, opt for Elite or ProMix mono. For superior casting distance with pinpoint accuracy, go with Sufix Siege.

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   Thanks, both of you.  I'll tell Santa what to get me.   😄😄😄    jj

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4 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

    I've seen that locally, someplace or other. How's the knot strength on it? How stretchy is it?  Thnx.  jj

 

Stretch is no worse than any mono and I have yet to have a knot failure.  Read the evaluation on TT.

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14 hours ago, Columbia Craw said:

 

Stretch is no worse than any mono and I have yet to have a knot failure.  Read the evaluation on TT.

For sure, and actually quite a lot better than monofilaments of the past.

 

If you want to feel really, really stretchy mono, give the red line that comes standard on many Zebco spincast reels a tug. Some rubber bands don't stretch that much! These great Sufix lines are nothing at all like that.

 

For sure on knots: mono holds great!

 

Brad

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21 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

    This is kinda getting off-topic. My original question was about a mono line.

Perhaps...but why does it have to be mono?  Like @Burrows above, I use Gliss.  The title was specific about distance and you will not get greater distance with anything else.  I now use it on every one of my spinning rods, always with a leader. 

However, if you do go with mono, consider KVD Line conditioner - it will help your manageability. 

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I have had the best luck with either Gliss, YGK Soul, or Seaguar Smackdown

 

All are very thin and cast very far with ease

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23 hours ago, jimmyjoe said:

    This is kinda getting off-topic. My original question was about a mono line. That's still my question. Which mono line for the rod stated would you use for long distance with a 3/8 oz. spoon?  jj

If you are looking at mono, any soft mono will work. It's going to be a trade off between casting distance and breaking strength required. I'd go with 6 or 8 lb xl. Are you bass fishing with spoons? because if so, they shouldn't be spinning too much. If you are using a ball bearing swivel and still getting twist, you need a better one and possibly a smaller one. 

Not sure what you are trying to do, but If I required long casts with spoons, I'd go with braid and a leader, and I always look to mono as a first choice over braid. What spoon are you using?

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Any decent 6# line should give you the distance you want.  I toss 2/5 oz. spoons all day long on medium spinning gear, using my preferred line (6# Invisx fluoro) for rainbows and browns that are considerably bigger than any bass.  That's just a tiny bit heavier than the 3/8 oz. baits you referenced.  The key to super long casts with spoons is rod length.  You can get it pretty far with a 7' rod.  I use a 9' rod for this, though.

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What spinning reel are you using, size makes a big difference when suggesting line.

Line memory and diameter not just pound test is key to casting distance.

Also line dressing helps to reduce friction and memory.

Tom

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