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Ned rig- straight braid?

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Big difference between straight braid and braid with a leader.

Braid with a leader involves an extra knot        :cool-045:

 

Roger

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15# Power pro to 8# Sunline sniper on light action spinning rod using 1/16 oz Zman shrooms. 

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Braid would act like a bobber with 1/16 oz Ned jig.

I fish darts and Ned's with either 5 lb Max UG or 7 lb Sniper depending on what spinning rod I rig up. I don't use braid with a leader.

Tom

 

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2 hours ago, BaitFinesse said:

I dread the day they figure out what fishing hooks are.  They don't make clear hooks.  It's bad enough that they know what fishing line is.

Reminds me of the Alabama rig. Bass don't seem to mind all those thick wires. Must be a good rig since the Alabama rig is banned from many bass fishing tournaments.

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21 minutes ago, WRB said:

Braid would act like a bobber with 1/16 oz Ned jig.

Are you joking? How buoyant do you think braided line is? A bare hook easily will sink braid. Especially line thin enough to fit through the eye of a 1/16 oz jig. Slowing the fall is why you would use a light jig. The most you could hope for with braid is that it might slow the fall of your jig just a tiny bit which is an advantage while using the Ned rig

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On my DS rod

10# braid to 8 # FC or mono

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7 minutes ago, Scott F said:

Are you joking? How buoyant do you think braided line is? A bare hook easily will sink braid. Especially line thin enough to fit through the eye of a 1/16 oz jig. Slowing the fall is why you would use a light jig. The most you could hope for with braid is that it might slow the fall of your jig just a tiny bit which is an advantage while using the Ned rig

The 1/16 oz jig will only sink the end of the line, the slack laying on the surface. If the Ned is heavy enough it may pull some of the slack out of the line, however a big bow will still be present. A bass can strike the lightvNed jig without you knowing it unless you watch the braid for movement where it enetere the water. Bouyant soft plastic on a light jig equals nearly nuetral weight in the water, very slow ROF.

Tom

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I was fishing it on 20lb 832 but switched to Sufix Advance 8lb mono for abrasion resistance in rocks.had to many cut offs in rocks with braid.

I would advise against straight braid or braid with a leader if you do a lot of deadsticking especially in deep water, braid had terrible slack line sensitivity even with a leader, and you cant always line watch especially if it's windy, any good copolymer or flourocarbon is superior in sensitivity when it comes to deadsticking/ slack line fishing or fishing in windy conditions

braid to leader for line mgt. and abrasion resistance.

8 hours ago, BaitFinesse said:

I dread the day they figure out what fishing hooks are.  They don't make clear hooks.  It's bad enough that they know what fishing line is.

I guess all my spinner baits and ARigs are going in the trash too until then. 

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15 hours ago, dgkasper58 said:

You use 10lb braid on baitcasters?  Doesn't that dig in to the spool like crazy?

I have for over 15 years.

Hard jerking hooksets not needed with ned rig just smooth sweeping motion and I use Trokar ned heads. Plus easier more control skipping neds with bc reel like Daiwa sv105 or curado 70 vs spinning reel.

 

8 hours ago, WRB said:

Braid would act like a bobber with 1/16 oz Ned jig.

I fish darts and Ned's with either 5 lb Max UG or 7 lb Sniper depending on what spinning rod I rig up. I don't use braid with a leader.

Tom

 

So you never actually fished a ned rig with braid cause your statement is 100% incorrect.

I fish it on #7 sun line sniper leader and have had a lot of success in very clear water. Never really tried straight braid. 

I typically fish a 12lb braid (my choice is sunline xplasma asegai) to a 8lb leader and it tends to work out well. and can always scale or lower the leader if desired

On 5/14/2020 at 6:57 PM, dodgeguy said:

I was fishing it on 20lb 832 but switched to Sufix Advance 8lb mono for abrasion resistance in rocks.had to many cut offs in rocks with braid.

Exactly, who wants to keep tying leaders all day! Fishing a ned rig you are going to get hung up a lot. Can't catch fish when tying leaders all day. 

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1 hour ago, APK62 said:

Exactly, who wants to keep tying leaders all day! Fishing a ned rig you are going to get hung up a lot. Can't catch fish when tying leaders all day. 

And I hate the knot going through my guides.

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Braid made of Spectra fiber is slightly lighter then water .098 vs 1.00 specific gravity,it floats because of it's weight and braid construction traps air. Monofilament line made of Nylon has identicle specific gravity of 1.00 same as water, it tends to float until surface tension breaks then mono suspends. Fluorocarbon line specific gravity is 1.50, heavier then water and sinks.

If you pull off 100' of braid or mono toss onto the water surface they float or suspend, they don't sink. 100' of FC line tossed on the water surface sinks to the bottom without anything attached.

Braid line or mono line shouldn't drag on the bottom unless your lure drags the line over something higher in the water column that is sharp. 

The reason I use mono line for split shot finesse presentations or Ned rigs is the line stays off the bottom in front of the weight, FC drags along the bottom in front of the Ned lure.

Ned jigs are usually light weight and Ned soft plastics usually float and stand up when on the bottom. 

Tom

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