Super User GaryH Posted January 17, 2023 Super User Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Mike L said: Excellent!! Another new co angler Tip… If you’re pulled up to shore waiting for your boater to back down the ramp and you volunteered to load the boat, Please don’t forget to pull up the Power Pole, Talon or other shallow water anchor BEFORE you move! Mike Hmmm and how to you know this ??? JK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 17, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted January 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, GaryH said: Hmmm and how to you know this ??? JK Personal experience from the first BFL I ever entered. If the boater next to me didn’t notice them down as I started backing up….. Well…it still gives me the shakes just thinking about it! Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User WIGuide Posted January 17, 2023 Super User Share Posted January 17, 2023 56 minutes ago, Mike L said: Personal experience from the first BFL I ever entered. If the boater next to me didn’t notice them down as I started backing up….. Well…it still gives me the shakes just thinking about it! Mike No worries if they were Power Poles you would have been fine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 17, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted January 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, WIGuide said: No worries if they were Power Poles you would have been fine Thanks fir that, I didn’t know!! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
813basstard Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 All good suggestions.. Other items: -Expect to get 5 bites. Catch them all. -If you’re getting backboated, I usually say “hey ‘Mike’ help me out here. I can’t get a cast in” -DO NOT care what he’s throwing. Throw what you feel good about -take notice of stuff they may miss. If he’s flipping but you see a swirl, hit it -If they are back boating you after you spoke up, be slow to grab the net..hell tell’em you didn’t hear 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PressuredFishing Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/16/2021 at 4:21 AM, Ski said: What are things I should keep in mind, do, not do and backseat etiquette. Always net, don't bug, tie line for the front angler, be polite and thankful, don't accept offer for front, fish the stuff he fished, save spots he missed for if you double back, bring food, pay for gas, if you spot fish give him the opportunity to catch them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susky River Rat Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 If you are both struggling and the boat owner asks what do you think don’t reply “it’s your boat you decide” he is asking for input to turn the day around and bounce ideas off of you. A lot of times this idea exchange can lead to catching fish. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody B Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I don't fish tournaments or belong to a club. How does the weigh in work? It is the boat total, or each angler for his own? I usually fish alone, but when I take someone I want them to catch fish. Especially if it's a young person or kid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Most clubs have similar rules. Each angler competes on their own for their own weight. However our club has a total weight boat pot which encourages the boat owner to aid the backseater. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User WIGuide Posted January 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Woody B said: I don't fish tournaments or belong to a club. How does the weigh in work? It is the boat total, or each angler for his own? I usually fish alone, but when I take someone I want them to catch fish. Especially if it's a young person or kid. That all depends on the tournament or tournament trail itself. Some have separate divisions for boaters and non boaters so the boaters are only competing against other boaters and same for the non boaters. Some have team tournaments, where the boater and non boater fish for 1 combined limit and are competing against all other teams. There are also some where there's only a single division and everyone is fishing for their own limit and everyone is fishing against one another. It's probably the most problematic format as you're directly competing against the other person in the boat. It really promotes "front ending" and is why I believe we're seeing less and less of those tournaments around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susky River Rat Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 9 hours ago, WIGuide said: There are also some where there's only a single division and everyone is fishing for their own limit and everyone is fishing against one another. It's probably the most problematic format as you're directly competing against the other person in the boat. It really promotes "front ending" and is why I believe we're seeing less and less of those tournaments around. I don’t know how that could be a good format. I am sure many arguments have come about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 hours ago, Darnold335 said: I am sure many arguments have come about. The club that I joined uses that format and is the oldest club in Fl. Just celebrated 52 years and several pro's actually have been in it including Peter T who still is. We have a total weight boat pot that encourages the boat owner to help the backseater. This is only my third year in it and have enjoyed the like minded people, and above all getting to "Fun fish" and "prefish"with all the different anglers, boats and trucks. The only down side I have found is, lets say I fish with Pat on Thursday then have a different partner for Sunday's Tnt. I would not tell the Tnt partner where Pat and I caught fish on Thursday. Kinda like kissing and telling. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Phil Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 39 minutes ago, Ski said: The only down side I have found is, lets say I fish with Pat on Thursday then have a different partner for Sunday's Tnt. I would not tell the Tnt partner where Pat and I caught fish on Thursday. Kinda like kissing and telling. When fishing a multi day bass tournament, it is bad etiquette to fish that tournament in a spot you learned about from a previous day's partner. This is asking for trouble. No one owns the lake, but you must have respect for your partners or you will never be told anything. One of the main reasons pros do better than amateurs is they have access to more information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 19, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Ski said: The club that I joined uses that format and is the oldest club in Fl. Just celebrated 52 years and several pro's actually have been in it including Peter T who still is. That club has some of the best fishermen I’ve ever known. You’d be surprised how many current and past pro’s that club has spawned. Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User WIGuide Posted January 19, 2023 Super User Share Posted January 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Darnold335 said: I don’t know how that could be a good format. I am sure many arguments have come about. It really isn't! It works better in a club setting where you actually know the guys your fishing with/against. The first few years I fished the State Tournament it was that format and it was ridiculous. There were a lot of arguments and it was really starting to hurt the participation numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Columbia Craw Posted January 20, 2023 Super User Share Posted January 20, 2023 I don’t care if it’s legal!!! You don’t smoke weed in my truck or boat. If you gotta smoke that crap, do it in the portacan where the odors can compliment each other. Nit wit was probably sponsored by a rolling paper company.? 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/19/2023 at 8:00 AM, Mike L said: That club has some of the best fishermen I’ve ever known. You’d be surprised how many current and past pro’s that club has spawned. I'm having fun with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 20, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ski said: I'm having fun with it. I’ll bet you are!! Mike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 I have taken most suggestions. I pay for entry fee, boat pot, lunker pot. $60 I pay gas money usually around $25.00. Pick up Hardee's biscuits. Back boat in. Recover boat after TNT. Boater never waits on me to move. I keep my tackle neat not all over the boat. I stay out of his casting area. And with this being said I get to fun fish couple times a week with several differant boaters including 1 MLF retired pro. R/ Ski On 1/19/2023 at 8:00 AM, Mike L said: That club has some of the best fishermen I’ve ever known. You’d be surprised how many current and past pro’s that club has spawned. I'm having fun with it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Phil Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Columbia Craw said: I don’t care if it’s legal!!! You don’t smoke weed in my truck or boat. If you gotta smoke that crap, do it in the portacan where the odors can compliment each other. Nit wit was probably sponsored by a rolling paper company.? In all the bass tournaments I have fished in over the years, alcohol in any form was not allowed. If a guy showed up drunk, he was disqualified. I assume smoking pot is the same? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Captain Phil said: In all the bass tournaments I have fished in over the years, alcohol in any form was not allowed. If a guy showed up drunk, he was disqualified. I assume smoking pot is the same? In the club I am in ANY form of mood altering substances including prescription pain meds is automatic disqualification and possible termination from club 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User GaryH Posted January 20, 2023 Super User Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Ski said: In the club I am in ANY form of mood altering substances including prescription pain meds is automatic disqualification and possible termination from club As well it should be. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator Mike L Posted January 20, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted January 20, 2023 As most know the vast majority of my fishing is as a tournament co angler at different levels and formats. A few times a boater’s mood and attitude changed drastically and each time I asked to be returned to the ramp. I have no patience or intent to be locked into close proximity to anyone impaired in such a way with no way out with my safety at risk. Especially on the water…or not. Mike 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 21, 2023 Super User Share Posted January 21, 2023 @Mike L I admire your choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User WRB Posted January 27, 2023 Super User Share Posted January 27, 2023 It sounds like the OP has adapted to back seating and enjoying the club experience?. I count on 1 hand how many times being a co angler during a tournament and agree with nearly everything suggested by Mike L and others. Since selling my boat 2 year ago I am now a back seater and suggest you keep your tackle to a minimum along with minimum tackle and stay organized. Since I am just out for a day on the water fun fishing, no pressure to catch bass. Co angler doesn't have that freedom, but if you adapt the goal to enjoy the day on the water you may surprise yourself and be a productive partner. Tom 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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