I have to admit, this new reel has my attention. Look close...no drag    Might have to buy one to try just to spite all those companies now removing the anti-reverse switch on their spinning reels - lol. Finally, a reel built for the backreeler/thumb-barrers of the world (however few of us there are).

 

Could be an epic fail, or the greatest thing since the original Shimano Castaic - time will tell. I'll be curious to see what sales look like (how much actual interest). I might have to bite 

 

Cool.

I'll be interested in your results.

And by all means, spool that baby up with 6 lb test.

A-Jay

I think the drag is there, just the star is eliminated. You have to reach in and turn it behind the handle?

4 minutes ago, Blaine Donders said:

I think the drag is there, just the star is eliminated. You have to reach in and turn it behind the handle?

Nope - no drag.

 

From KastKing

"KastKing built the Speed Demon Deadbolt reel that is a real performance baitcasting reel with no drag. Let me repeat…no drag.  There's no star drag. The fishing reel is locked down solid. There's no drag so there's no chance of your drag slipping or ever loosening up. "

 

https://kastking.com/blogs/buying-guides-reviews/five-best-baitcasting-reels-for-2022

Lmao i guarantee that thing does not back reel. It's the next insane step in the ridiculous drag arms race.   No drag.  Or infinite drag as in the handle is keyed to the main gear.  100 lbs of drag!!!

5 minutes ago, Tatulatard said:

Lmao i guarantee that thing does not back reel. It's the next insane step in the ridiculous drag arms race.   No drag.  Or infinite drag as in the handle is keyed to the main gear.  100 lbs of drag!!!

The last BB1 launch was the last back reel reel? 

I know it won’t backreel, but it should thumbbar real good ?

Is this a Tackle Warehouse exclusive? I do t see any where else?

30 minutes ago, Blaine Donders said:

I think the drag is there, just the star is eliminated. You have to reach in and turn it behind the handle?

 

Write-up I saw said no drag, period. Will have to wait and see as there are hints of conflicting info depending on what/where you read.

 

1 minute ago, Blaine Donders said:

Is this a Tackle Warehouse exclusive? I do t see any where else?

 

I wouldn't think so, but not released yet, so may just take some time to show up elsewhere. Found write-ups on the most recent BassBlaster and on the KK website.

My frog reel has an on/off drag, but it didn't start out that way...

1 hour ago, MN Fisher said:

Nope - no drag.

 

From KastKing

"KastKing built the Speed Demon Deadbolt reel that is a real performance baitcasting reel with no drag. Let me repeat…no drag.  There's no star drag. The fishing reel is locked down solid. There's no drag so there's no chance of your drag slipping or ever loosening up. "

 

https://kastking.com/blogs/buying-guides-reviews/five-best-baitcasting-reels-for-2022

Interesting indeed! Now I want one….

I like the idea, until I think of the giant flatheads that occasionally like to eat my jigs and trigs. Those beasts would turn a flippin stick into kindling if you couldn't get that thumbar down fast enough. 

6 hours ago, Deleted account said:

My frog reel has an on/off drag, but it didn't start out that way...

This is what I was thinking, it would be a pretty awesome frogging/flipping reel if nothing else. 

Somewhere I have an old Daiwa that had a backreel switch.  It was from the late 80s or very early 90s.

11 minutes ago, J Francho said:

Somewhere I have an old Daiwa that had a backreel switch.  It was from the late 80s or very early 90s.

1:1 direct drive, no drag, (if you don't count the palm of your hand) and no AR... (if you don't count the palm of your hand), 3 bushings, and 2 of them are in the knobs... I fish straight 60 lb mono, or 80 braid to 80 mono leader on em.

Does this reel actually have a drag and it is just always on lock down with no spring washers or is the handle actually fixed to the gears?  Tacklewarehouse mentions 22lbs of drag.

A friend of mine just got his. Loves it for flipping jigs. Says it so much better than the Megajaws 7.2 he has.

   Drag is locked, don't know how. 7.2 gear ratio. Says 18 on the drag on Amazon. Handled everything he caught no issues. Fishes heavy cover yoo-hoo water.

16 minutes ago, Alex Ball said:

Drag is locked, don't know how

The main gear is probably keyed to the crankshaft.

Any update on this reel in the real world? Watching cliff crochet wear them out using this reel, straight braid, topwater and flipping. 

48 minutes ago, Cbump said:

Watching cliff crochet wear them out using this reel, straight braid, topwater and flipping. 

He was chirping about it during Takeout. Claimed to have had input during its design process if I remember correctly.

On 5/4/2022 at 8:31 PM, PhishLI said:

The main gear is probably keyed to the crankshaft.

I wonder if the drag is locked in that there aren't spring washers and the drag star is just tightened down and without star points to adjust.  Flat washers in place of the spring washers and a locked down drag effectively.  This is how one of the deps zillions was built.  You can do this to any reel really.  Just swap out the spring washers with flat ones plus a shim or two then crank down on the drag star.

2 hours ago, Tatulatard said:

I wonder if the drag is locked in there

Just checked the KK website where they do post schematics, but I can't find this one. BTW, scroll through and you'll find they're doing some FFS platforms. Huh.

This is such a strange concept to me... I am someone that runs drag much lighter than I need because I thumb the spool to regulate my drag. I don't understand why I would want 0 drag...

1 hour ago, JediAmoeba said:

This is such a strange concept to me... I am someone that runs drag much lighter than I need because I thumb the spool to regulate my drag. I don't understand why I would want 0 drag...

That was my thought

 

 

1 hour ago, JediAmoeba said:

This is such a strange concept to me... I am someone that runs drag much lighter than I need because I thumb the spool to regulate my drag. I don't understand why I would want 0 drag...

My understand is that it has drag.  It’s set at full without adjustment since there no star drag.   I think it just acts as if you have your drag cranked down fully 100% of the time.    

Just weird that they say there is no drag when the site claims it has 22lbs of drag or something.  I dunno I forget.   LoL

 

 

but I’ve been known to be wrong.  ??‍♂️