Super User gimruis Posted August 7, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Kirtley Howe said: Well, you can certainly pull a big bass boat with a Nissan Rouge, or Rave 4, or similar vehicles. I don’t think so. The 2023 Nissan Rogue’s max towing capacity is listed at a measly 1500 pounds. I think @Darth-Baiter saw a different vehicle. No sane person would hook up a “big bass boat” to a Rogue. I have a smaller bass boat and the towing weight is about 3500 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted August 7, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 7, 2023 My friend said it wasn’t a rouge. Not sure anymore. Hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User gimruis Posted August 7, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said: My friend said it wasn’t a rouge. Not sure anymore. Hmm Could have been a Pathfinder or Armada. Pathfinder can tow 6000 pounds and the Armada can handle 8000. The Pathfinder does kind of look like the Rogue, but bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted August 7, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 7, 2023 Maybe. I don’t know the new SUV’s anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted August 12, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted August 12, 2023 Both………. (Picture taken today) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmairF Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Hey this topic has peaked my interest since I’ve really been debating on getting either a jon boat or kayak. I fish in Chicagoland, IL and there’s not too many bigger bodies of water within an hour (for fishing trips <2-3 hours) that allow bigger boats with motors unless they’re electric. A kayak would allow me to fish the smaller bodies of water and get in and out of the water relatively quickly, especially since I only really get 2-3 hours to fish a couple days in the week. Have a couple questions for you kayak guys (or anyone that has input): - I’m currently in an apartment so does anyone have any ideas as to where I can store a kayak if I got one? I would get a kayak that has pedal assist in it preferably. - As far as transportation goes, would I need a small trailer for it? I have a sedan right now not sure if I would be able to pull it but maybe it’s possible? The goal is to get a bigger place someday soon but just wanted to have a couple questions answered as I continue my own research. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User ol'crickety Posted August 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 18, 2023 I'd stay with your boat for its range, room, speed, the ability to fish while standing, which is HUGE, and so on. However, as a swamp girl, a boat wouldn't work for me. I couldn't skate over the weeds with a transom and prop. A kayak can. So, I would only switch to a kayak if you're a swamp boy. However Part II, I will switch to a boat one day simply because I'll be too old for the work that comes with a canoe or kayak. And when I'm standing in that boat, I'll be happy, unless I look deep into the weeds and see a big bass slurp something. Then I'll be sad and wish I had a paddle instead of a prop. 7 hours ago, UmairF said: - As far as transportation goes, would I need a small trailer for it? Yes and no. I see lots of kayaking Mainers who transport their kayaks in pickup beds. However, a trailer will make your life easier.' Sweet rigs, @TnRiver46! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User ol'crickety Posted August 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 18, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 7:44 PM, Dye99 said: Spent a few years overseas and earned myself a little trauma. Doc's said medication. I said exercise in the great outdoors. In the end I won. Been in the kayak since 06. I so admire you. And am equally happy for you too. On 7/29/2023 at 7:44 PM, Dye99 said: Im 52 now, and when my body starts to tell me I cant paddle anymore I'll get a bass boat, until then Im gonna be out there before light, paddling away. You sound just like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted August 18, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted August 18, 2023 Paddling may be easier than launching and recovering a bass boat for older folks . I can easily get people of any age into a kayak and let them paddle around, I do that at my weekend job and for my mom all the time. No way in the world some of the same folks could climb on a trailer tongue and launch or winch and latch a boat to a trailer. They would need waders/boots and maybe a dock to avoid the climbing. Keeping the boat at a marina dock would be much better 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User ol'crickety Posted August 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Paddling may be easier than launching and recovering a bass boat for older folks . I can easily get people of any age into a kayak and let them paddle around, I do that at my weekend job and for my mom all the time. No way in the world some of the same folks could climb on a trailer tongue and launch or winch and latch a boat to a trailer. They would need waders/boots and maybe a dock to avoid the climbing. Keeping the boat at a marina dock would be much better ^Good points^ I imagine myself at 77 living in a small cabin on a lake. I'd have a dock and my boat tied there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted August 18, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted August 18, 2023 11 minutes ago, ol'crickety said: ^Good points^ I imagine myself at 77 living in a small cabin on a lake. I'd have a dock and my boat tied there. I’ve got a cabin with a dock I could rent you cheap! It’s one heck of a hike from dock back to cabin tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User casts_by_fly Posted August 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 18, 2023 9 hours ago, UmairF said: Hey this topic has peaked my interest since I’ve really been debating on getting either a jon boat or kayak. I fish in Chicagoland, IL and there’s not too many bigger bodies of water within an hour (for fishing trips <2-3 hours) that allow bigger boats with motors unless they’re electric. A kayak would allow me to fish the smaller bodies of water and get in and out of the water relatively quickly, especially since I only really get 2-3 hours to fish a couple days in the week. Have a couple questions for you kayak guys (or anyone that has input): - I’m currently in an apartment so does anyone have any ideas as to where I can store a kayak if I got one? I would get a kayak that has pedal assist in it preferably. - As far as transportation goes, would I need a small trailer for it? I have a sedan right now not sure if I would be able to pull it but maybe it’s possible? The goal is to get a bigger place someday soon but just wanted to have a couple questions answered as I continue my own research. Thanks! It all depends on the kayak. If you are thinking about a Hobie pro anglers 140 or an Autopilot 136 then I would suggest a trailer. They are big boats and heavy. Even my AP120 is a lot to truck bed. In a sedan you can car top it if you have the ability to add racks. But you'll need to be able to lift the boat you choose. For storage, only you can know what you have available. If its safe, you can keep it on the roof rack for spring through fall. Some people do that especially for quick trips so that you're always loaded. I often leave mine in the bed of the truck all summer and the rods/gear ready to roll. If not, you'll have to figure out what space you have available. For what you're describing, something like a 106 PDL sounds ideal. Its a smaller boat and maybe not the best for tracking over long distances, but for what you're describing I woudl start looking there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airshot Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 All deoends on your wants and needs and what boating oportunities you have in your area. No one boat does everything!! I have had one of everything in my 60 yrs of owning a boat. Each and everyone one had its pros and cons, good and bad, less work and more work....so...you need to decide what your gonna do with a boat first, the buy accordingly. At one time, I have owned three boats at the same time, each one had a specific purpose.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted August 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 18, 2023 @UmairF watching my friends. i have come to a conclusion that big kayaks and tiny living spaces dont mix. one guy had to rent a garage space..and another guy bought an enclosed trailer and rented a space in a contractor's yard. he had to add 30 minutes travel time every trip just to go get his kayak out of the trailer. i have seen Hobie ProAnglers on roof top racks. so i know it is doable. not sure i could, but some people get it done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishing_Rod Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Greetings and Happy Friday All, Interesting topic. I have a dinghy and kayaks. I use the yaks more. They are just easier overall. Since the kayaks weigh less they are easier to deploy and stow, also maneuver too. Since I have a pickup truck loading either is not much fuss. Also since PU bed is lower there is less of a lift involved. I would emphasize if you are roof racking be aware of the load limits. Most vehicles specify the roof rack load limits. Realize any load positioned up high will alter the handling characteristics. It only gets worse when the load is greater. Personally I have a general safety limit of winds under 15 mph. Mainly because I want to do casting and catching rather than just paddling. Also I'm a recreational angler that just doesn't want too much effort to recreate. Borrow one of both and try them out. I hope you find something that works for you. Be well and Cheers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zcoker Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 The toss-up between the two platforms comes down to what one expects to exactly do with it, how it's exactly done as well as the restrictions in the area lived. Down here in south Florida, for example, there's a lotta places that don't allow gas powered boats, only kayaks OR electric powered kayaks, which is the key. Fishing kayaks are in an evolution of sorts, coming into their own where the paddle is becoming obsolete. When I was up against this same dilemma, I had no idea in the world just how far the fishing yak technology had come....and still coming. And when I finally made my choice and got into a powered fishing kayak, I haven't looked back. That thing has allowed to fish in the most wonderful places imaginable where no gas powered boat dare go or even dream of going. It can tackle the widest and deepest of lakes, too. Only thing I don't have is the speed and the wake lol The kayak is light enough to toss in the back of my truck and go anywhere, thick or thin, any place, any time, any location, for pleasure or for tournaments. When she's wheeled up, I can launch her anywhere in some of the craziest makeshift launch sites imaginable, especially in the everglades. Unloading and loading is fast and easy, the same with carting her around. For me, many more doors were opened in the yak department and realistically fit my bill. So it really comes down to the person, their location, and what they realistically want or expect out of their watercraft. Launching into the marshlands where the bigguns live! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted August 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 18, 2023 the only limitation to a kayak is your own personal limits with respect to wind..and distance. it is a bummer to be fishing lukewarm bass waters to have a friend text you that they are on fire 25 miles south. i suppose with a powered kayak, 25 miles is okay. i am good with 14 miles out and 14 miles back, powered with simple carbs. in 3 years of kayak fishing, i have not put my boat back into my truck to move to another area. i just try to figure it out, with varied success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User ol'crickety Posted August 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said: i am good with 14 miles out and 14 miles back, powered with simple carbs. ^Impressive!^ 1 hour ago, Zcoker said: Launching into the marshlands where the bigguns live! Ah, a marsh boy, one of my southern cousins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User gimruis Posted August 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, Darth-Baiter said: i am good with 14 miles out and 14 miles back, powered with simple carbs. I'm not sure how fast your kayak goes but that seems pretty absurd. I don't even go that far in my boat that can cruise along at 30 mph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User ol'crickety Posted August 18, 2023 Super User Share Posted August 18, 2023 35 minutes ago, gimruis said: I'm not sure how fast your kayak goes but that seems pretty absurd. I don't even go that far in my boat that can cruise along at 30 mph. It would be a demanding, full day, but it's doable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zcoker Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Darth-Baiter said: i am good with 14 miles out and 14 miles back, powered with simple carbs. Yes, impressive. I have nothing against paddles and I have nothing against peddles but I don’t miss neither of them suckers lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody28 Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 7/29/2023 at 2:22 PM, MN Fisher said: What you can do with a 14'-16' Semi-V Jon Pretty much exactly what mine looks like. Does the job well. Local tourneys just wont allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susky River Rat Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 @Cody28 would it be possible to be a co angler in the tourney? Do that till you can get the boat you really want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Solution the reel ess Posted August 21, 2023 Super User Solution Share Posted August 21, 2023 Keep the boat, scrimp and save for the kayak. They're similar, but not the same thing. I'm 53 now and I'm starting to really feel the kayak in my back after a couple hours. But also, the kayak is great for places with no ramp, small waters, rivers or creeks. At least, if you buy the kayak and don't love it, you still have the boat to fall back on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted August 21, 2023 Global Moderator Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 4:17 PM, Darth-Baiter said: . i am good with 14 miles out and 14 miles back, powered with simple carbs. At 5 mph that’s pushing 6 hours pedal time, no time left to fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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