Super User Further North Posted September 4 Super User Share Posted September 4 ...we both left our phones in our vehicles. I caught a decent - high 20 inch range - tiger musky, and a stupidly fat 18" smallie...and a bunch of pike. The tiger musky - my 3rd - was a natural (the river isn't stocked, there's no need - and had amazing color. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted September 4 Global Moderator Share Posted September 4 Sure you did……. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockhopper Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 14 minutes ago, Further North said: The tiger musky - my 3rd - was a natural I bet not more than likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User GreenPig Posted September 4 Super User Share Posted September 4 A good story is a good story, whether it's true or not.😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susky River Rat Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Sounds like one of those a 50 bit me off at the boat dock while i was crapping fishing with a worm on my Zebco. Just kidding…. Heart breaker when you can’t get a picture you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Further North Posted September 4 Author Super User Share Posted September 4 4 hours ago, Rockhopper said: I bet not more than likely Since that section of river hasn't ever been stocked with tigers, I'll happily take that bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User gimruis Posted September 5 Super User Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Further North said: Since that section of river hasn't ever been stocked with tigers The world record tiger is from Lac Viuex Desert, a sizable lake on the Wisconsin-Michigan border that was never stocked with them. The guy that made me a muskie replica in 2021, Rick Lax, is stationed near there in Conover, WI. His muskie replicas have won international awards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockhopper Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 16 hours ago, gimruis said: The world record tiger is from Lac Viuex Desert, a sizable lake on the Wisconsin-Michigan border that was never stocked with them. The guy that made me a muskie replica in 2021, Rick Lax, is stationed near there in Conover, WI. His muskie replicas have won international awards. As of August 2024, the International Game Fish Association (IGFA) world record for the all-tackle length of a tiger muskie is 45 inches (115 centimeters), caught by Daniel Caricaburu-Lundin on May 20, 2024 in Ackley Lake, Montana. The IGFA all-tackle world record for the weight of a tiger muskie is 51 pounds 3 ounces (23.21 kilograms), caught by John Knobla on July 16, 1919 in Lac Vieux-Desert, Michigan. Why do they break up the records between length and weight? Hell, we have caught tigers longer than 45 inches. Doesn't seem like an accurate "world record". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User gimruis Posted September 5 Super User Share Posted September 5 37 minutes ago, Rockhopper said: Why do they break up the records between length and weight? Hell, we have caught tigers longer than 45 inches. Doesn't seem like an accurate "world record". I don't know. I am pretty sure world records are by weight. At least that's my experience. Minnesota now has both: a weight and a separate length category for state record fish. The length one has become more popular now becuase you can release the fish alive, whereas the weight certification you have to kill the fish. You've caught a tiger muskie longer than 45 inches? We must see this monstrosity. That's an enormous fish for a hybrid. And honestly, any record from 1919 has to be questioned. That's over 100 years ago. The requirements were pretty loose back then. The guy probably brought it home and ate it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockhopper Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, gimruis said: You've caught a tiger muskie longer than 45 inches? We must see this monstrosity. That's an enormous fish for a hybrid. My dad has a 48" mount on the wall at his house caught in Utah at Pineview reservoir in the late 90's. I don't get up there often, but I will snap a photo next time I am there. It is skinnier though. Not a big fat belly like you typically see. Lake Merwin by my house has a TON of tiger musky in it. Easy to spot them as the water is crystal clear, but very hard to catch them. My biggest out of that lake so far is 40". You cannot keep them if they are under 50". That is our state minimum. (I wouldn't keep regardless) They were stocked there to eat the pike minnows and help the Kokanee population. The Washington state tiger muskie record is 50.38" / 37.88 lbs according to WDFW website. There are much bigger fish in Merwin than that. The next state record will come from that lake. My father, without getting into details about his work, controlled the fish hatcheries in the area among many other things. I always get the fish reports for all species. Get a lot of daily river reports/counts for the fish traps too. A few years ago they shocked the lake and during the study they got one just under 70". And that is not a fish tale. True story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User gimruis Posted September 5 Super User Share Posted September 5 9 minutes ago, Rockhopper said: My dad has a 48" mount on the wall at his house caught in Utah at Pineview reservoir in the late 90's. That's a spectacular fish. Older than when I first started muskie fishing, in fact. They do a good job of thinning small pike I think. As do pure strain muskies, and larger pike. We have a serious hammer handle pike problem in many lakes here and the daily bag limit is 10 (9 have to be under 22 inches), so they're trying to get more harvested. I think most serious muskie anglers would consider the 50 inch mark for trophy status on a pure strain and a 40 inch mark on a tiger. I always said whichever one I caught first I'd get a replica of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockhopper Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, gimruis said: They do a good job of thinning small pike I think. That is exactly correct. Hatchery studies for Merwin have actually proved this. Stomach content showing plenty of pike minnow and very very little kokanee. That is a beautiful fish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User gimruis Posted September 5 Super User Share Posted September 5 6 minutes ago, Rockhopper said: That is a beautiful fish. I picked it up at a Muskie Expo in Wausau, WI. LAX had a booth there and instead of driving all the way to Conover in northern WI, I went to Wausau instead and simply picked up my replica there. Plus he said that the best part of picking up a replica at an expo is that everyone sees you walk out carrying it. 😎 When I picked mine up, there was a bigger tiger muskie replica laying next to it. That one was a 47 incher. I asked him where it was caught and he said Lac Viuex Desert. Ironically, where the current world record is listed from. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassBass Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, Rockhopper said: As of August 2024, the International Game Fish Association (IGFA) world record for the all-tackle length of a tiger muskie is 45 inches (115 centimeters), caught by Daniel Caricaburu-Lundin on May 20, 2024 in Ackley Lake, Montana. The IGFA all-tackle world record for the weight of a tiger muskie is 51 pounds 3 ounces (23.21 kilograms), caught by John Knobla on July 16, 1919 in Lac Vieux-Desert, Michigan. Why do they break up the records between length and weight? Hell, we have caught tigers longer than 45 inches. Doesn't seem like an accurate "world record". My understanding the length record is a catch and release record. Was set just the other day out West. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockhopper Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 12 minutes ago, MassBass said: My understanding the length record is a catch and release record. Was set just the other day out West. It has to be released is the caveat? Washington State record is 5" longer than the so called "world" record. Utah record is 53 1/4" from 1998 just to name two. Both longer than the world record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilas15 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Something about LVD... Jeff Van Remortel guides up there. I can only guess this one came from there. I've caught one natural tiger that was only 28" I believe. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User gimruis Posted September 5 Super User Share Posted September 5 48 minutes ago, MassBass said: My understanding the length record is a catch and release record. Thats exactly the same as state records here in MN. Weight record is a death sentence. Length is C & R. Precisely why length is becoming more popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassBass Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 2 hours ago, Rockhopper said: It has to be released is the caveat? Washington State record is 5" longer than the so called "world" record. Utah record is 53 1/4" from 1998 just to name two. Both longer than the world record. Its photographed/filmed next to an official IGFA tape and then released. Yeah it might be smaller Its a different record. I read an article about this catch. Guy was planning for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted September 6 Super User Share Posted September 6 On 9/5/2024 at 1:06 PM, Rockhopper said: As of August 2024, the International Game Fish Association (IGFA) world record for the all-tackle length of a tiger muskie is 45 inches (115 centimeters), caught by Daniel Caricaburu-Lundin on May 20, 2024 in Ackley Lake, Montana. The IGFA all-tackle world record for the weight of a tiger muskie is 51 pounds 3 ounces (23.21 kilograms), caught by John Knobla on July 16, 1919 in Lac Vieux-Desert, Michigan. Why do they break up the records between length and weight? Hell, we have caught tigers longer than 45 inches. Doesn't seem like an accurate "world record". I met Daniel down @ lake Baccarac in Mexico last trip. He builds swimbaits & is a very accomplished angler. His wife is a traveling nurse so he has fished all over including Alaska & Texas & Montana most recently. A truly nice guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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