Susky River Rat Posted January 3 Posted January 3 1 hour ago, TnRiver46 said: Haul butt 70 mph and you throw a bunch more possible bad endings into the scenario. I was thinking the same thing. I don’t have any experience with weather or body’s of water like that. I have heard how on big bodies of water they can see it raining on one side and it’s sunny on the other so that’s where they stay fishing. @T-Billy I’ve been out musky fishing during complete white outs. I know the deal. 2 Quote
Super User T-Billy Posted January 4 Super User Posted January 4 8 hours ago, Swamp Girl said: Wow, @T-Billy! You were soooo close to it. Too close. It was about 1/4 mile away when we first saw it and it looked to be coming straight at us. I pulled the baits up and jumped in the back and started the motor thinking I'd try to run from it, but it had already disappeared in the sheets of rain, so we just sat tight rather than running further from shore. We regained sight of it just after it hit the marina dock and we watched it tear across the lake and into the woods on the other side. The whole ordeal went down in less than a minute. I seem to be a tornado magnet. 😂 The wife and I ended up within 100yds of an F1 years ago on our way home from fishing, and we had an F3 skip over our house and touch back down a block over. We looked right up into the eye of that one. There were pieces of houses and big tree limbs swirling around hundreds of feet in the air. That one kept skipping all the way through town. The street crews were a couple weeks cleaning up all the downed trees. It splintered giant oaks and maples like they were nothing and tore a bunch of roofs off. 5 Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 4 Author Super User Posted January 4 7 hours ago, T-Billy said: We looked right up into the eye of that one. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 7 hours ago, T-Billy said: It splintered giant oaks and maples like they were nothing and tore a bunch of roofs off. I've seen that happen to trees too, with their great trunks twisted off. 15 hours ago, Susky River Rat said: I’ve been out musky fishing during complete white outs. I know the deal. 7 hours ago, T-Billy said: It was about 1/4 mile away when we first saw it and it looked to be coming straight at us. Tales like Billy's and Susky's have me extending grace to the two bass boaters and their dog. In aggregate, I've spent literal years on water and it's my experience that sooner or later, if you're out there long enough, that Mother Nature will pounce on you when you've nowhere to hide. Heck, I once paddled the Mississippi source to sea through the fall and into the winter and when you start that far north that late into the paddling season, you will be weighed, measured, and hopefully not found wanting. Heck, one rainy night, on Thanksgiving, I was called upon to save a runaway boat with my measly kayak. Stuff happens. 2 Quote
Susky River Rat Posted January 4 Posted January 4 @Swamp Girl one time I had fog roll in on me fast. About 15 minutes. I had to be up on plane in my boat to get through the area I needed to go through. It was a very come to Jesus moment where I put a lot of trust and luck into my gps. Same with if I get stuck out in the wind. Not a I’m going to swamp the boat issue but a I can’t read the water issue. 2 Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 4 Author Super User Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, Susky River Rat said: I can’t read the water issue. Been there. Yeah, even in my pokey canoe, there are times when night and fog keeps me from reading the water. 3 minutes ago, Susky River Rat said: @Swamp Girl one time I had fog roll in on me fast. About 15 minutes. Exactly. Spend enough time on water and Mother Nature will bushwhack you. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 4 Super User Posted January 4 Can't comment on the OP. However on the subject of fog. I've been there and done that. In a professional and recreational capacity. Professionally, we would train for it by placing blankets on all the windows of the small boats/cutters we were working with to simulate ZERO visibility. Then using Dead Reckoning (Stop watch, a paper chart, dividers & compass) NO GPS in those days. We would 'navigate' to our destination; hopefully not running aground or worse. This was training so there was never any worse, which can not be said for actual rescues. We called it 'Fog Nav training" and doing it in rivers was particularly nerve racking - #movingmedium However it did prepare us for worse case scenarios of night time and or fog rescue evolutions. Recreationally, I like fishing in the fog, as there's rarely anyone else on the water here and the fishing's usually pretty good. https://youtu.be/S_Owp6ZVN0U?feature=shared&t=78 A-Jay 6 Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted January 4 Super User Posted January 4 29 minutes ago, Susky River Rat said: @Swamp Girl one time I had fog roll in on me fast. About 15 minutes. I had to be up on plane in my boat to get through the area I needed to go through. It was a very come to Jesus moment where I put a lot of trust and luck into my gps. Same with if I get stuck out in the wind. Not a I’m going to swamp the boat issue but a I can’t read the water issue. Glad you made it back safe and glad no one else on the water was hurt I got caught out in the ocean and was only about a half mile from shore. When the fog rolled in I couldn't see shore nor did I know which direction to go. Thankfully electronics navigated me back. There was zero visibility so putting the boat on plane was not a safe option for me. I will say that's it's true, you really lose all sense of direction in those conditions. Anyway, I wasn't going to post here but that post caught my eye. 2 Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 4 Author Super User Posted January 4 16 minutes ago, A-Jay said: Recreationally, I like fishing in the fog, as there's rarely anyone else on the water here and the fishing's usually pretty good. I LOVE fog fishing. It's like playing poker with aces up your sleeves. 2 Quote
Susky River Rat Posted January 4 Posted January 4 @Swamp Girl and @Jigfishn10 this is the issues with fishing a super shallow river with lots of rocks. @A-Jay that sounds like some very intense training. I do not mind fishing in the fog it’s just the river is not very friendly for it. I plan those adventures to where I can run with no issues. unless something happens like it did that day to me. 2 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 4 Super User Posted January 4 11 minutes ago, Swamp Girl said: I LOVE fog fishing. It's like playing poker with aces up your sleeves. I can see that - especially in a bog. But it's a little different out on the open ocean where there a chance one might get run over by a 900 ft container ship that wouldn't even know it hit anything. A-Jay 4 1 Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 4 Author Super User Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, A-Jay said: I can see that - especially in a bog. But it's a little different out on the open ocean where there a chance one might get run over by a 900 ft container ship that wouldn't even know it hit anything. A-Jay Fishing on a foggy ocean sounds like playing poker with wolverines and ticking time bombs up your sleeves. You're right about fog being best for bogs, as no one can motor through a bog anyway. Rather they could, but only for about three feet. 2 Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 4 Super User Posted January 4 21 minutes ago, A-Jay said: Then using Dead Reckoning (Stop watch, a paper chart, dividers & compass) NO GPS in those days In my teenage years I worked as a deck hand & First Mate on charter fishing boats in the Gulf of Mexico. Even on bright sunny days this was how we maneuvered from location to location. Fog! Night fishing on Toledo Bend near Turtle Beach on the Louisiana side, a dense fog rolled in about midnight, somewhere around 3 we decided to head back to our camp on the Texas side. There was a huge sign on a tree in the mouth of Negreet Creek that advertised Turtle Beach Lodge. I idled over to the sign, pointed the bow towards what I believed was due west & the Texas side. 30 minutes later & directly in front of us was the Turtle Beach sign! Again I pointed the bow westward & again 30 minutes later the was the Turtle Beach sign. Sleep in the boat until daylight tied to the Turtle Beach sign! 5 5 Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 4 Author Super User Posted January 4 22 minutes ago, Catt said: There was a huge sign on a tree in the mouth of Negreet Creek that advertised Turtle Beach Lodge. I idled over to the sign, pointed the bow towards what I believed was due west & the Texas side. 30 minutes later & directly in front of us was the Turtle Beach sign! Again I pointed the bow westward & again 30 minutes later the was the Turtle Beach sign. Sleep in the boat until daylight tied to the Turtle Beach sign! Great story. Thanks for telling it. Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 4 Super User Posted January 4 @Swamp Girl Ya ever seen the movie "The Perfect Storm"? 135 miles out in the Gulf of Mexico during a storm that made a 70' boat look tiny. Still will not watch that movie today! Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 4 Author Super User Posted January 4 19 minutes ago, Catt said: @Swamp Girl Ya ever seen the movie "The Perfect Storm"? 135 miles out in the Gulf of Mexico during a storm that made a 70' boat look tiny. Still will not watch that movie today! I've seen it and no film can convey the violence of a storm, not unless the movie theater heaved and pitched and you and the other patrons we're all vomiting and wondering if the movie theater would survive the storm. You're a good storyteller. Please tell the story of the storming Gulf. 2 Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 4 Super User Posted January 4 17 minutes ago, Swamp Girl said: Please tell the story of the storming Gulf Which one? I sure @A-Jay or anyone who has been 100+ miles out in the Gulf or Atlantic or Pacific understand its a totally different ball game. Often times you simply can not out run the weather, so you batten down the hatches & ride it out. 2 Quote
Super User Swamp Girl Posted January 4 Author Super User Posted January 4 2 hours ago, Swamp Girl said: 135 miles out in the Gulf of Mexico during a storm that made a 70' boat look tiny. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 4 Super User Posted January 4 3 hours ago, Catt said: Which one? I sure @A-Jay or anyone who has been 100+ miles out in the Gulf or Atlantic or Pacific understand its a totally different ball game. Often times you simply can not out run the weather, so you batten down the hatches & ride it out. No Doubt @Catt - However heading out into perilous conditions when we were called to do so, is the very essence of the job description. (depending on your rating of course, and my wife and I were both Boatswain Mates. Some light reading. A-Jay 8 Quote
Super User Catt Posted January 5 Super User Posted January 5 @A-Jay Y'all trained in conditions i tried to avoid! 👍 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 5 Super User Posted January 5 44 minutes ago, Catt said: @A-Jay Y'all trained in conditions i tried to avoid! 👍 My friend, there were many times we wished everyone could exercise your level of common sense. Apparently it's somewhat rare. But I guess that's job security for the first responders. A-Jay 1 Quote
Bigassbass Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Squalls on a lake are common especially big lakes. Several years back a friend and I was fishing Falls Lake in Durham, N.C. and a squall came up out of know were. Many bass boats were sunk and some people hurt. I had an old high sided boat my brother gave me, so we made it to shore with the lake patrol watching from the bank to be sure we were ok. It really was scary, easy 3 foot waves pounding the boat and water washing in all the while. Nature is strong and sometimes sneaks up on you, no forecast of any kind that day from the weather people. 3 Quote
Super User geo g Posted January 6 Super User Posted January 6 That was just dumb. Consider that a warning to use common sense from now on. Nothing worth risking your life. 1 Quote
Pat Brown Posted January 6 Posted January 6 Basically I'm not a fan of air temps below about 38° (frozen guides), winds in excess of about 15 mph (falling, hitting my head on the way in and drowning), water temps below about 48° (hypothermia), thunderstorms (being fried in open water sounds not fun) or stinging or biting animals (rabies shots anyone? Epi pen? Yeah I'm good.) Beyond that - I will fish in most stuff. Oh yeah - being alone on the water is a blanket that covers all of those risks - really bad idea to be honest. Water is dangerous. Have a helping hand available and always be an available helping hand and you probably won't die. 1 Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted January 6 Super User Posted January 6 @Pat Brown, totally agree. That day I got caught in fog, I had my head down fishing. Looked up with zero disability. It kind gave me a disoriented feeling. Again, I had GPS and current. The current was pushing me towards shore, so I came to a sense of direction. the only thing left is navigating the 3 mile back to the mooring. Which was dicey bc I had no idea who else got caught in the fog. The last thing I needed is an accident. You really need to keep your wits and calmness every time out 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 6 Global Moderator Posted January 6 I paddled a tiny cheap kayak 3-4 miles into a maze of mangroves out of ft myers Florida once. Didn’t realize the sunshine state got fog in the ocean……. And it did. Couldn’t see jack, just had to guess which way the hotel was. Luckily I guessed correctly 😂 1 Quote
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