"When seconds count, the police are just minutes away"

All I need is my skinning knife.

Never bring a knife to a gunfight.

I don't carry on the water typically, but this is an interesting sentiment.  Knock on wood, I've never had either pulled on me, but a knife is much, much scarier in close quarters.  Given 20 feet or so or time to draw, possibly a different story.  I've done some tactical training for law enforcement, military, and contractors.  There is no good way to deal with a knife.  

We do a lot of edged weapon defense at work because that's what we're most likely to encounter. One of the biggest thing to remember in a knife fight, if you decide to stand and fight, you're going to get cut, end of story. Now you may win the fight, but if you're only armed with your hands, going against the most novice fighter that's armed with a knife, they're going to cut you. We train with shock knives (imagine you have a butcher's knife, but instead of a sharp edge, it shocks the crap out of the person it touches). I've never seen someone go hand to hand and not get shocked by it, which is fun since every situation we go through you're supposed to go hand to hand. 

The 20 feet rule has been changed to 31 feet also. 20 feet sounds like a long way, but even an average person can cover that before your brain processes what is going on and draws a gun and fires. 

Best thing to do if you're unarmed and someone pulls a knife, run and/or get something between you and them. If you've never seen any images of someone who has been in a knife fight, make sure you haven't eaten anything recently and do a google image search, it's not pretty. 

Exactly.  The shock knives are pretty eye opening.  A cheaper substitute for anyone reading this that wants to see just how effective a knife can be, put on some clothes you don't care about give a friend a marker, and see how many times they tag you before you can disarm them.  With 14 years of experience watching, and teaching I can say confidently that there is no clean way to disarm them, and your shirt is going to be a mess.  Also, it's very common for knife attack victims to have no idea they were stabbed until they begin to see blood - a knife can feel like a punch and sever nerves.  In a knife fight, your fight isn't a fight against the knife, and it's not even a fight against your attacker - it's a fight to process the stress and survive. 

The advantage of a knife is it's good At contact range. The disadvantage of a knife is it's only good at contact range. Given the choice of a knife or firearm only I'd still take the firearm, fortunately I don't have to choose. 

Where I carry the meth-heads ain't gonna feel a knife stab. That's why I carry a .45. Its like a punch, only a punch don't produce a hole through you. 

I have to nice guns

lol

Looks like my high school math teacher Mr. Teeter. Except he had the vain in the middle of his forehead that I always imagined one day would explode out of his head.

lol I hear yah. I had a teacher like that.

Where it's legal, absolutely.

 

I had someone actually make a threat once on a serene and peaceful float/fishing trip in the middle of nowhere.  You never know when the need to defend yourself will arise.

I never leave home without my SP-101 on my hip CC. Boat, shore, grocery store, church.

I would be the same way if I had one.

DE doesn't allow carry in state parks, so those ponds are out. But the other ponds, yes. The Nanticoke river I would, unless there is any chance we'd run down it into MD, in which case no way. I don't know how their laws translate to boats, but in vehicles... well, we just leave them at home. 

Better safe than sorry. In my opinion it's better to leave it at home than risk jail time just for crossing an imaginary line. 

Yes, I do carry every where I go, 24/7 Not because I am afraid I just refuse to be a victim without the ability to protect myself or my loved ones. Open carry is allowed here in MS but I don't normally do so just as a personal preference not to advertise or to draw unnecessary attention to the fact. Weapon of choice Beretta PX4 Storm with Bianchi IWB holster.

On ‎1‎/‎26‎/‎2017 at 11:09 AM, Al Wolbach said:

I have a CC permit and keep a weapon in the glove box while on the boat.

 

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On ‎1‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 2:59 AM, Bluebasser86 said:

We do a lot of edged weapon defense at work because that's what we're most likely to encounter. One of the biggest thing to remember in a knife fight, if you decide to stand and fight, you're going to get cut, end of story. Now you may win the fight, but if you're only armed with your hands, going against the most novice fighter that's armed with a knife, they're going to cut you. We train with shock knives (imagine you have a butcher's knife, but instead of a sharp edge, it shocks the crap out of the person it touches). I've never seen someone go hand to hand and not get shocked by it, which is fun since every situation we go through you're supposed to go hand to hand. 

The 20 feet rule has been changed to 31 feet also. 20 feet sounds like a long way, but even an average person can cover that before your brain processes what is going on and draws a gun and fires. 

Best thing to do if you're unarmed and someone pulls a knife, run and/or get something between you and them. If you've never seen any images of someone who has been in a knife fight, make sure you haven't eaten anything recently and do a google image search, it's not pretty. 

 

Did not realize the 21-foot rule was extended 10-feet.

Thanks for the update.

On ‎1‎/‎28‎/‎2017 at 2:52 PM, Wayne P. said:

"When seconds count, the police are just minutes away"

 

Yes Wayne, you are correct. And it is not the law enforcement agencies fault.

 

You would be surprised how many other bass fishermen have no idea what counties or parishes they are in as they move around during the day. On Lake Gaston you can go in and out of Virginia and North Carolina all day long.

 

Or where they are, exactly, while on the water or at a ramp.

 

A ramp can easily be determined by a 911 operator in the county or parish and help can be on the way. But some of the guys I fish with don't even know the names of the roads the ramps are on or you have to transgress to get to the ramp. We know how to get to the ramps but if you ask me and many of my friends we have no idea of the names of the roads we take.

 

And others have no idea what creeks they are fishing during the day.

 

That is why I carry on the boat and also have a flare gun.  If I call law enforcement I want to be able to fire a flare so they will know where I am on the water.

 

We don't have many conservation officers in Virginia. Around 130 to cover the entire state. So we have to depend on local sheriff and police departments to give us assistance. And some of these great departments do not have access to watercraft at all ramps or on the water.

 

So your comment above is correct. The local sheriff and police departments have only "so many" officers and they do the best they can.

I try not to go anywhere that carrying is prohibited by law. It's not always possible but I do my best to avoid those places.

Ditto

nope. I leave all mine at home. I also don't wear a helmet when I drive my car. I guess I live on the edge.

Bigfruits, do you wear a seatbelt?

Of course! Not trying to fall of the edge. I also keep guns at home.

 

If I felt I needed a helmet when driving, Id choose another road. If I felt I needed to carry while fishing, id choose another body of water.

 

I don't care if a mentally stable and sober fisherman is carrying. I just choose not to.

 

 

 

 

 

Couldn't one also make the argument that if you knew you would need your seat belt, you would just not drive?