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I'm trying to get better at skipping jigs and still experience a crazy amount of backlash too often. Any tips on helping eliminate or reduce this would help.  Thanks in advance!

 

Setup:

diawa ct type r 8:1

dobyns fury 704

14lb sniper fc

arky style or structure jig in 3/8-1/2

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Try a little more spool tension and a little less brake.  Don't try and throw too hard also.  That used to be my biggest issue.  I'd try to throw super hard to get it way under.  I've learned that it doesn't take much to get a jig far under a dock.

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3 minutes ago, RichF said:

Try a little more spool tension and a little less brake.

 

Exactly how I do it.  Seems counterproductive, but it works. 

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Thicker line and raising the rod tip as you watch the jig skip away from you. I find concentrating on making a good roll of the jig as I make the cast helps to send the jig out at the right trajectory too.

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On 6/9/2017 at 2:04 PM, MittenMouth said:

I'm trying to get better at skipping jigs and still experience a crazy amount of backlash too often. Any tips on helping eliminate or reduce this would help.  Thanks in advance!

 

Setup:

diawa ct type r 8:1

dobyns fury 704

14lb sniper fc

arky style or structure jig in 3/8-1/2

It's been about 6 months since you asked this? How has it been going? What have you learned?

 

On 6/9/2017 at 2:21 PM, Tim Kelly said:

I find concentrating on making a good roll of the jig as I make the cast helps to send the jig out at the right trajectory too.

This is also what I have found to produce the best results. I also find that focusing on the "roll out" up and away after the cast improves backlash ratio, and the less I focus on where I want the jig to go and focus on the roll out and in the better my accuracy.

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12 hours ago, Dirtyeggroll said:

It's been about 6 months since you asked this? How has it been going? What have you learned?

 

This is also what I have found to produce the best results. I also find that focusing on the "roll out" up and away after the cast improves backlash ratio, and the less I focus on where I want the jig to go and focus on the roll out and in the better my accuracy.

Aww man- I figured out it’s easier to skip from a bass boat and at the same time I found out it’s harder to explain to your wife you bought a bass boat...

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I'm still trying to master it myself, but from my research of watching the pro's, here's what I've heard. 

 

Seth Feider says not to fill your spool as full as you normally do. I've heard other pro's say make one normal cast and put a strip of tape around the spool. This will prevent your spool from backlashing any deeper than where that tape is.

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I watched a video of Andy Montgomery a couple/few times.  And practiced....and practiced and practiced.    Two things that I got from the vids that helped immensely -

1.  Go ahead and dial up the spool tension and brakes.  I thought it a sign of 'weakness' if I used a lot of brakes and tension -- like if I couldn't train my thumb to do everything, I was somehow lacking

2.  Think about skipping rocks -- how your arm and wrist sort of parallel the surface, but kind of 'flick upwards' at the end....and then apply that image/motion to your rod and lure -- might not make a lot of sense until you do it a couple times.

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On June 9, 2017 at 12:04 PM, MittenMouth said:

I'm trying to get better at skipping jigs and still experience a crazy amount of backlash too often. Any tips on helping eliminate or reduce this would help.  Thanks in advance!

 

Setup:

diawa ct type r 8:1

dobyns fury 704

14lb sniper fc

arky style or structure jig in 3/8-1/2

8 month old thread so this isn't going to help you now; FC line is too difficult to manage and no advantage when skipping jigs, change to mono like Big Game and change the line often. Use a side arm casting motion and start with shorter casts about 30'. Tape the spool, 1 tape wrap, after pulling about 30 yards of line works great with braid and may help with FC or mono, I use Teflon plumbers tape when teaching someone to cast a baitcasting reel.

Tom

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This video helped me out a lot.

 

 

 

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I do the opposite of these guys. Tension knob almost falling off, centrifugal brakes on high and magnetic on medium. It takes almost no effort to cast but the breaks slow down the bait, especially after the first two skips, so I don't have to be careful about backlashes. 

 

Also, I only fill up my spool about halfway (Lew tournament MB normally). That might help with skipping, but I just normally do it. I don't like messing with backing and never use the bottom half of my line on the spool. Always ends up being torn out so why put it on.

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25 minutes ago, bugbee77 said:

I don't like messing with backing and never use the bottom half of my line on the spool. Always ends up being torn out so why put it on.

You are sacrificing casting distance for other techniques,  obviously not skipping.

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It's all technique and bait selection. Equipment is the least of your worries

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When your line is more then a 1/4" below the baitcasters spool rim your reduce IPT radically, this affects both retreive speed and casting distance because the spool needs to spin faster to over come the reduce length of line comming off or being reeled on.

Tom

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On 1/8/2018 at 9:37 AM, BassNJake said:

Gerald Swindle has a good video about skipping.

Guy is better at one handed, back hand skipping than I could ever dream of being.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=251s2IefuWE

 

Dude is crazy good

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7 hours ago, roadwarrior said:

You are sacrificing casting distance for other techniques,  obviously not skipping.

People keep telling me that but whenever I fill a spool I see no difference other than more backlashes. It's a personal preference, there are some downsides, and I know that many guys don't like to do it. It just works for me. To each his own.

 

But yeah, Swindle is a d**n monster at skipping jigs. I thought I was good but watching that video was really humbling. 

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I spool half my reel with 50lb braid then basically tying a very long leader fc or mono i dont fill to top i stop around 1/4 from top  that seem to work for me helps reduce backlash and makes skipping little easier , plus you save money on floro when iuse braid as backing .. Know matter how good you are at skipping you still are going to backlash ..

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Ditch the 704 and go with a medium action rod so u can load it up easier and not have to throw it as hard.

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